Agema Publications

A forum for the disscussion of the Play by Mail games from Agema Publications


Game 8

Share
avatar
Rozwi_Game10
Duke
Duke

Number of posts : 390
Location : North Yorkshire
Reputation : 6
Registration date : 2015-08-15

Re: Game 8

Post by Rozwi_Game10 on Sat Aug 26, 2017 3:52 pm

Jason, is your playing nation Muslim?

And should you then go after another Muslim nation for enslaving a Christian, would that not see you frowned upon by other Muslim countries?

Or given that there's all the different sects within Islam, can you get away with it on this occasion?

[forgive me if I'm wrong on the above - tbh, I'm just too lazy to bother looking who's who and whose done what.]
avatar
Deacon
Emperor
Emperor

Number of posts : 1414
Age : 54
Location : Portland OR, USA
Reputation : 38
Registration date : 2010-04-13

Re: Game 8

Post by Deacon on Sat Aug 26, 2017 3:59 pm


He is, but any number of legitimate arguments for making a fuss come to mind.

The man is an ambassador.

Seizing up men in an open port is damaging to trade and not cricket.

etc, etc.

avatar
Jason
Emperor
Emperor

Number of posts : 1555
Age : 47
Location : Gourdon, Aberdeenshire
Reputation : 16
Registration date : 2008-08-27

Re: Game 8

Post by Jason on Sat Aug 26, 2017 4:47 pm

Deacon has summed it up well...Persia is Muslim but an ambassador is someone worthy of respect, regardless of religion and within all major religions, the grabbing of nobles and enslaving them (regardless of religion) is not seen as good thing.

Slaves are a certain thing in society, if I allow the representative of another nation to be enslaved and do nothing, how can I object if someone enslaves my subjects.

Think of this as a Saladin moment, I can show my nobility, I treat those of other religions in the same way as those of my own. You have abused a man who was coming to my court, that means you have abused one of mine...PERSIAN HOSTS MUSTER!!!!!

Wait til you see my next press statement in the next G8 turn, my G9 Lord Fong postings will be nothing by comparison


Last edited by Jason on Sat Aug 26, 2017 4:52 pm; edited 1 time in total
avatar
Rozwi_Game10
Duke
Duke

Number of posts : 390
Location : North Yorkshire
Reputation : 6
Registration date : 2015-08-15

Re: Game 8

Post by Rozwi_Game10 on Sat Aug 26, 2017 4:52 pm

Very Happy Fair enough.

I tend to look at things from a Rozwi perspective, nowadays.

"Was he somebody important and a Rozwi? No. Then I do not care. Why are you bothering me with this talk!"

Unless I've formally recognised the person as a guest of the Changamire, then I suppose I might deign to do something.
avatar
Jason
Emperor
Emperor

Number of posts : 1555
Age : 47
Location : Gourdon, Aberdeenshire
Reputation : 16
Registration date : 2008-08-27

Re: Game 8

Post by Jason on Sat Aug 26, 2017 4:58 pm

I think it's that difference. it goes back to the old idea, for example, of the offering of water. If you have a guest or prisoner, once you offer them water they are safe and under your protection-ambassadors are considered to have been offered the drink once they leave their home.

Think about the Glen Coe Massacre, it's not the massacre that is the issue, it is the fact the troops had been offered hospitality and then slaughtered the clan that is so shocking...ok Scottish history is full of similar abuses but the idea hold true, once someone as been offered your hospitality (however that is defined) they are under your protection (and act in certain ways)...if you say, send me an ambassador, they are your guest and under your protection...if someone abuses them...
avatar
Rozwi_Game10
Duke
Duke

Number of posts : 390
Location : North Yorkshire
Reputation : 6
Registration date : 2015-08-15

Re: Game 8

Post by Rozwi_Game10 on Sat Aug 26, 2017 6:17 pm

Rozwi still wouldn't be fussed. Unless he'd arrived and been formally welcomed, recognised, offered sustenance and shelter, if he got himself kidnapped on the journey there it's his own damn look out.

Here's the official newspaper info', for those not playing:

MASSAWA
While arranging to board a ship
to take him to a Persian port the
Abyssinian diplomat Ato Abruk
is believed to have been snatched
by slavers and has thus lost his
liberty

For the sake of argument you've then got to ask a few questions. Where was the diplomat going? was Persia merely a point of arrival before travel over-land. Was he actually a credited ambassador? as there's no mention of him being assigned to a nation (unless I've missed it?) Who actually did take him - if he has, in fact, been taken at all? Where was the representative's water-carriers? His sleeping-mat carrier? His armed, bound by blood and clan, guard? Lots of questions need answering. I know an Englishman at Hull who might do it for a price!

Rosales-Uber-Alles
Freeman
Freeman

Number of posts : 12
Age : 49
Location : Ipswich, Suffolk. England
Reputation : 0
Registration date : 2017-05-20

Re: Game 8

Post by Rosales-Uber-Alles on Thu Aug 31, 2017 1:48 pm

Luckily the Emperor to whom the confines of the earth bow, will use this as an opportunity...travel in Africa, even for the handsome people of Abyssinia is fraught with risk.

The poor soul was heading towards Persia, the previous emissary was going to take four years to get there. So a more fleet of foot traveller was being sent...plenty more where he came from!
avatar
Rozwi_Game10
Duke
Duke

Number of posts : 390
Location : North Yorkshire
Reputation : 6
Registration date : 2015-08-15

Re: Game 8

Post by Rozwi_Game10 on Thu Aug 31, 2017 5:47 pm

Make Persia pay some sort of blood price for the loss of the poor chap. After all, according to this thread Persia seems to like sob stories, so will probably provide a pension for the man's family. And if it hadn't had been for the Persian's existence, he'd still have been safe at home and tending his goats.

Does Isfahan have a branch of InjuryLawyers4U? Would kidnapping be covered under Third Party, Fire and Theft?

Rosales-Uber-Alles
Freeman
Freeman

Number of posts : 12
Age : 49
Location : Ipswich, Suffolk. England
Reputation : 0
Registration date : 2017-05-20

Re: Game 8

Post by Rosales-Uber-Alles on Fri Sep 01, 2017 7:45 am

Haha! Now there's a thought!
avatar
Deacon
Emperor
Emperor

Number of posts : 1414
Age : 54
Location : Portland OR, USA
Reputation : 38
Registration date : 2010-04-13

Re: Game 8

Post by Deacon on Fri Sep 01, 2017 5:14 pm

I think if Jason can find and liberate the ambassador and make something of a stink about this, he's got free honour coming his way. That's exactly the sort of pointless grandstanding that your nobles adore!

Sponsored content

Re: Game 8

Post by Sponsored content


    Current date/time is Fri Sep 22, 2017 9:12 am