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A good book for glory of Kings

Post by Kingmaker on Tue May 06, 2008 6:57 pm

Dictionary of Eighteen-Century History by Jeremy Black and Roy Porter , published by Penguin
ISBN 0-14-051258-6 about 10

Also if you can find it:

The Age of Louis XIV by Voltaire Published by Heron Books
http://www.amazon.com/Age-Louis-XIV-Everymans-Library/dp/0460007807

no ISBN on it I am afraid


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Re: A good book for glory of Kings

Post by The Little Corporal on Thu May 08, 2008 7:19 am

ah books...

here are some of my favourites

The ottoman turks history to 1923 - Justin McCarthy, Longman (if you like playing the Turks then this will be crucial in my opinion!)

The Art of Warfare in the Age of Marlborough - david chandler, Spellmount

Eighteenth century europe 1700-1789, Jeremy Black, Macmillan press

The Ancien regime in Europe, Government and society in the major states 1648 - 1789, E.N. Williams, Bodley head (not sure if this is still in print so go and search your secondhand book shops!)

plus the Times hisorical Atlas and the C18th Dictionary Terry suggested
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Re: A good book for glory of Kings

Post by The Little Corporal on Tue May 13, 2008 8:54 pm

Just found this for the players of the UDP

http://www.authorama.com/history-of-holland-21.html

A free internet book, The History of Holland by George Edmundson. Interesting if nothing new but...some good personalities and as much background information as you would need to establish a good direction for the Dutch!
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Re: A good book for glory of Kings

Post by revvaughan on Wed Jul 16, 2008 10:09 pm

Thanks for that on the Dutch... I will be giving it a look! Idea
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Re: A good book for glory of Kings

Post by Ardagor on Wed Aug 04, 2010 2:40 pm

A couple of books that I just found online:

Firepower, Weapons Effectiveness on the Battlefield, 1630 - 1850
Major-General B. P. Hughes CB CBE

The Anatomy of Victory, Battle Tactics 1689 - 1763
Brent Nosworthy

Quite old, 13 and 18 years but very interesting.

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Re: A good book for glory of Kings

Post by Kingmaker on Thu Aug 05, 2010 8:18 pm

top one looks worth a browse if i can find it


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Re: A good book for glory of Kings

Post by Marshal Bombast on Thu Aug 05, 2010 10:31 pm

Ebay and amazon have copies at the moment Kingmaker. There is a 1997 edition around.

The British Library have copies that you should be able to order through your local library on an inter library loan.

Hope that helps.

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Re: A good book for glory of Kings

Post by count-de-monet on Fri Aug 06, 2010 8:38 am

The online book on Dutch history is really good - thanks for that.

Ordered a couple of the other suggested books too. Great thread.
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Re: A good book for glory of Kings

Post by Ardagor on Sat Aug 07, 2010 10:42 am

I discovered both books (and several others ) while adding books on Librarything, a very useful online service for cataloging books.
And you can get recommendations on what you will probably like based on how your library compare to other people on the site.
This usually works well as there are in excess of 1,000,000 users and 5,000,000 unique works. It has certainly cost me more than a little money.
There is also the unsuggester that will list the books that you will probably dislike the most, can be great fun.
Also numerous discussion groups on books, history, religion, politics etc.
It is the place to be if you are a bookworm, like me.
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Re: A good book for glory of Kings

Post by Ardagor on Wed Sep 01, 2010 2:48 pm

Her are a few books that may be of interest to some.

British warships in the age of sail 1603 - 1714
British warships in the age of sail 1714 - 1792
Russian warships in the age of sail 1696 - 1860

All with exhaustive lists of ship names, dimensions, armament, fates etc
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Re: A good book for glory of Kings

Post by revvaughan on Wed Sep 01, 2010 4:24 pm

You have any idea, other than amazon, where these might be located?
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Re: A good book for glory of Kings

Post by Ardagor on Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:22 pm

I got them from amazon and
http://www.bookdepository.co.uk/
I like that they have free postage anywhere.
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Re: A good book for glory of Kings

Post by the great unwashed on Thu Oct 14, 2010 11:33 am

for those of you who like uniforms, regimental lists and suchlike, the following may be of interest.
Liliane and Fred Funcken- The Lace Wars. published by Ward Lock-1977.
A two volume set coverring the period 1700-1800, with vol. 1 dealing with France-The King's Household, French, British and Prussian infantry, and Vol. 2 dealing with French, British and Prussian cavalry and artillery, other German states, Austria, Belgium, Italy and Spain, Russia and Sweden.
Due to their age , I've no idea if still in print, but well worth trying to get hold of. There is also a 2 vol. set dealing with the Napoleonic Wars, but not as comprehensive.
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Re: A good book for glory of Kings

Post by Ardagor on Tue Jun 19, 2012 10:56 pm

Another book that I have just bought is "Falconer`s new universal dictionary of the marine" which is a facsimile of the original from 1815 and have more than 700 pages of explaining 200 years old nautical words. It is actually quite interesting and useful.
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Re: A good book for glory of Kings

Post by Ardagor on Tue Sep 25, 2012 7:26 pm

I have bought some books from "The Naval & Military Press" lately

All of these are a bit late, around 1740-50 and very country specific but I buy books like these constantly anyway.

The Cloathing book 1742: A representation of the Cloathing of his Majesty`s Household and of all the Forces upon the Establishments of Great Britain and Ireland 1742. Quite a mouthful.
ISBN: 1-84574-290-7

Saxon Army of the Austrian War of succession and the seven years war. Uniforms, Organisation and Equipment
ISBN-13: 978-1-907417-26-9

Austrian Seven Years War Infantry and Engineer. Uniforms, Organisation and Equipment
ISBN-13: 978-1-907417-15-3

Austrian Seven Years War Cavalry and Artillery. Uniforms, Organisation and Equipment
ISBN-13: 978-1-907417-16-0

The Cavalry Regiments of Frederick the Great 1756-1763
ISBN: 0-88740-164-3

The Infantry Regiments of frederick the Great 1756-1763
ISBN: 0-88740-163-5




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Re: A good book for glory of Kings

Post by Guest on Wed Sep 26, 2012 11:00 pm

Thanks Ardagor,

a couple of unusual books on naval issues you might enjoy:

The Line of Battle (The Sailing Warship 1650-1840)
ISBN 0-85177-954-9
Part of the Conway History of the Ship series, edited by Robert Gardiner
This book is excellent on ship design, covering not only SoL and Frg, but also some of the smaller and more unusual vessels we come across in LGDR such as Xebecs and other oared warships. Excellent diagrams. It also has a very full bibliography with summaries of each title.

Naval Warfare in the Age of Sail (The Evolution of Fighting Tactics 1650-1815)
ISBN 0-7858-1426-4 by Brian Tunstall
Another volume in the same series, edited by Robert Gardiner
This incredibly detailed look at tactics, signalling, fighting instructions, mainly from the English viewpoint, but also includes French innovations, detail on Hoste's treatise and analysis of major combats. Unfortunately no bibliography, though sources are acknowledged throughout the text.

One very interesting aspect he mentions is the appreciation of some British Admirals of French techniques. Admiral Vernon, who was made Captain in 1706 and served until the mid 1740s strongly advocated firing at the rigging rather than the hull. French signalling based on a scientific approach was also far in advance of the myriad of English books which their own officers found confusing. English tactics seemed to ossify after the Battle of Malaga (1704) and the French seemed to lose interest in tactical development concentrating instead on ship design and the strategic use of their fleets to expand their Empire. The adoption of a professional approach on both sides seemed to close off debate and frustrated improvement, the exact opposite of its intention. According to contemporary papers Lord Howe faced the opposition of many of his officers when he planned to cut the French line in the Battle of the First of June, so dazzled were his officers of French tactics. Howe's brilliant manoeuvre would have failed had the French admiral who had achieved his strategic objective of protecting the grain convoy, decided not to risk his untrained fleet in a hazardous pell-mell battle. The conservative English officers may have never tried such a risky tactic again.
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Re: A good book for glory of Kings

Post by Ardagor on Thu Sep 27, 2012 5:22 am

Thanks Louis

I have these two books, both are very good. My only problem is that I buy books faster than I manage to read them...

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Re: A good book for glory of Kings

Post by J Flower on Thu Sep 27, 2012 10:30 am

I know you have posted about books, but on a naval point. If you enjoy board games maybe try getting hold of Avalon Hills "Wooden Ships & Iron Men" an Age of Sail game. a bit complex but it gives a good idea of tactics & ship development via it's various scenarios.
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Re: A good book for glory of Kings

Post by Ardagor on Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:22 am

Yes, it is good. I bought this game many years ago but have not played it much. Mostly I play boardgames with 3-6 players.
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Re: A good book for glory of Kings

Post by Ardagor on Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:43 am

A few more books to get back on subject.

The Restoration Warship: The design, construction and career of a third rate of Charles II`s navy
ISBN: 978-1-84486-088-3

Fireships: The Terror Weapon of the Age of Sail
ISBN: 978-1-84832-025-3

I also have some books about the specific countries I run in game (China, India and Persia), around 70 or so.

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Post by Guest on Thu Sep 27, 2012 2:30 pm

Ardagor wrote:My only problem is that I buy books faster than I manage to read them...

I used to have the same problem until I found I was buying multiple copies of some books!

What cured me was selling off half the library, only keeping the most useful 2 or 3 books on each subject. Now I am incredibly selective about adding new books. Of course it also helps that I've found a very good source which sells hardbacks at 1 and paperbacks at 50p!

I'll certainly look out for the fireships book and the Wooden Ships & Iron Men game which I vaguely remember being made into a computer game many years ago.

From a French perspective A History of the French Navy by E.H.Jenkins (ISBN0356041964) is well worth buying. Using mainly untranslated French sources it was the standard book on French ships until very recently when a very expensive encyclopaedia type book came out with a huge price tag! Can't remember the title, but then it was way beyond my budget!

One of the best books I've ever read on China is A History of Chinese Civilisation by Jacques Gernet. Anyone who plays China in a game of LGDR must have a massive task to get to grips with the country and its vast history.

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Re: A good book for glory of Kings

Post by J Flower on Fri Sep 28, 2012 9:26 am

Not sure if there is an English traslation but a good book i have found is

Das Heerwesen in Brandenburg und Preuen von 1640 big 1806

Others in English are

The Battle Tactics of Napoleon and his enemies ISBN009 474510 2

A bit late for the period but the introduction is interesting as it covers the evolution & development of wearons & tactics.

The Age of Battles ISBN0 253 36380 2

Takes you from Breitenfeld to Waterloo.

Is it also true that Avalon hill are no more? I did enjoy playing there games over the years. I always thought that many of there games were just waiting to become computer Games, but it never seemed to happen. Or maybe it has & I missed them.
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Post by Ardagor on Fri Sep 28, 2012 12:03 pm

Avalon Hill was taken over by Hasbro some years ago. Hasbro selected a few (big sellers) for continued production and dumped the rest. Some, like civilization/Advanced civilization have been released from copyright so anyone can tinker with them.
Very few of the games now sold by the "new" Avalon Hill would be accepted by the old one.
Avalon Hill was a company of enthusiast and game players who wanted to make good games for other gamers, and there are not enough hardcore gamers around.
Hasbro want to make a lot of many in any way possible.

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Re: A good book for glory of Kings

Post by J Flower on Sat Sep 29, 2012 8:44 am

If you want more specific uniform details the Osprey seris are a "reasonably " cheap way of obtaining that, The colour prints are good. plus details of tactics and organisation are also touched upon.

Shame about AH, I suppose the computer age has the nail in the coffin for them, No doubt the games will become collectors items because of the novelty value of playing on a table top rather than a computer screen. Shame.
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Re: A good book for glory of Kings

Post by Ardagor on Sat Sep 29, 2012 9:09 am

Yes the Osprey series is mostly very good, I bought quite a few of them some years ago.

Avalon Hill definitely had a lot of problems with the computer age but the final straw was losing in court against MicroProse about the right to the Civilization name. That cost them 411,000$. The irony is that Hasbro now control AH and MP along with a lot of other companies (Wizards of the Coast, Milton Bradley, TSR inc, Parker brothers etc). They have more or less vacuum cleaned the games market in America over the last 20 years or so.

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