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Which TGOK game positions have never been played?

Post by Rozwi_Game10 on Tue Apr 12, 2016 10:51 am

Kingmaker wrote:ok sorry deleted the thread for unplayed positions by accident thought I had moved it but it deleted it instead!  affraid

Please repost if you can  Embarassed

The gist of it was, which, out of all of the playing positions available, do you know have been played in games of LGDR / TGOK

Europe
Kingdom of England                           Kingdom of Scotland
Kingdom of Sweden                           Kingdom of Denmark
United Provinces (Dutch Republic)        Kingdom of France
Kingdom of Spain                              Kingdom of Portugal
Duchy of Savoy-Piedmont                   Republic of Genoa & St. George
Republic of Venice & St. Mark              The Papal States (the Papacy/Vatican)
The Duchy of Tuscany                         The Swiss Cantons
The Principality of Hanover                  The Principality of Bavaria
The Principality of Saxony                   The Principality of Hesse-Kassel
The Principality of Hesse-Darmstadt     The Duchy of Wurtemburg
The Duchy of Lorraine                        The Holy Roman Emperor (Austria, &c)
Principality of Prussia-Brandenburg      The Tsardom of Russia
Principality of Poland (Commonwealth)  Duchy of Lithuania (Commonwealth)
Polish Ukraine (Commonwealth)          Duchy of Courland (Commonwealth)

Ottoman -types [As I couldn't decide what name to call them.]
Ottoman Anatolia (Sultanate)              Ottoman Europe/Rumelia (Sultanate)
Ottoman Syria (Sultanate)                  Ottoman/Mameluke Egypt (Sultanate)
Principality of Moldavia (Sultanate)      Principality of Wallachia (Sultanate)
Khanate of the Crimean Tartars           Shahdom of Persia
Sultanate of Oman                            Sharif of Hejaz

India
Moghul India                                    The Maharatas
The Rajputs                                     Gujerat
Afghans

Africa
The Asante Union                              Kingdom of the Rozwi
Empire of the Abyssinians                  

Asia
Kingdom of Burma                            Kingdom of Siam
Shansi province (Imperial China)         Kwantung province (China)
Shantung province (China)                 Kingdom of Korea (Imperial China)
Manchuria province (China)                Shogunate of Imperial Japan

Pirates
Wako Japanese pirates
Blackbeard (West Indies pirate)
William Kidd (West Indies pirate)
Madagascan pirates

Exiled
The Jacobites (in exile)
The Camisards (Huguenots rebels)


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Re: Which TGOK game positions have never been played?

Post by Rozwi_Game10 on Tue Apr 12, 2016 10:56 am

Gujerat was given as a position not ever being, possibly, played. And I said that I've reserved that position in a game, but am paying on Thursday when Richard is back at his desk.


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Re: Which TGOK game positions have never been played?

Post by jamesbond007 on Tue Apr 12, 2016 1:44 pm

Well you cannot be in game 8. The position has already been lost, to the Moghul.
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Re: Which TGOK game positions have never been played?

Post by Kingmaker on Tue Apr 12, 2016 3:46 pm

Principality of Poland (Commonwealth)  Duchy of Lithuania (Commonwealth)
Polish Ukraine (Commonwealth)          Duchy of Courland (Commonwealth)

all these where played in Game 3 at one time then they all dropped out me included (Poland)


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Re: Which TGOK game positions have never been played?

Post by Stuart Bailey on Wed Apr 13, 2016 12:01 am

Rozwi_Game10 wrote:Gujerat was given as a position not ever being, possibly, played. And I said that I've reserved that position in a game, but am paying on Thursday when Richard is back at his desk.



Are you sure calling the Great Shah of Persia "Ottoman-ish" and then taking a position next to said King of Kings & the Great Iman of the House of Ali is a good diplomatic move?......well its one way to liven up the game in India......bring forward the Invasions of Nadar Shah and Ahmed Shah by 40 years.

Have to admit I think more Persian players should consider heading East looking for loot, plunder, and glory for smiteing the ungodly. Since while its next to impossible to get the Afghans, Uzbecks etc to co-operate over anything they do seem to be up for a Jihad over the Hindu Kush.

Jokes at the expense of would be rulers of Gujerat to one side I understand that in its early days Glori du Roi was a lot more Euro-Centric and players used to get double positions like Wurtenburg-Portugal or Hesse-Kessel-Malta so if one part of your position got crushed you could run away and rebuild.

I suspect that some of the more minor German states have been played in this form but not since & I still can not believe that someone
actually played Courland in G3.........its a sand dune! With possible sea side development by the Czar if his other favoured options do not work out.
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Re: Which TGOK game positions have never been played?

Post by Rozwi_Game10 on Wed Apr 13, 2016 10:04 am

jamesbond007 wrote:Well you cannot be in game 8. The position has already been lost, to the Moghul.

Yes, that's what I was told when I made enquiries for the position.

Game 8 was out, due to what you've said, and I was already taking part in game 10.

Stuart Bailey wrote:Are you sure calling the Great Shah of Persia "Ottoman-ish" and then taking a position next to said King of Kings & the Great Iman of the House of Ali is a good diplomatic move?

I was stuck for what to label them. Middle-East, but the Crimean location scotches that. Islamic States, wouldn't have been correct as there's other states elsewhere with Islam as a main religion. I'm happy to modify my original post, if anyone can provide a more suitable name.

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Below. I've striked out any game positions I've either played against or heard tell of.
The player positions in the different font are those awaiting confirmation of them having been played - and I can update, or someone else can.


Europe
Kingdom of England                          
Kingdom of Scotland
Kingdom of Sweden                          
Kingdom of Denmark
United Provinces (Dutch Republic)      
Kingdom of France
Kingdom of Spain                            
Kingdom of Portugal
Duchy of Savoy-Piedmont                  
Republic of Genoa & St. George
Republic of Venice & St. Mark            
The Papal States (the Papacy/Vatican)
The Duchy of Tuscany                        
The Swiss Cantons
The Principality of Hanover                  
The Principality of Bavaria
The Principality of Saxony                  
The Principality of Hesse-Kassel
The Principality of Hesse-Darmstadt  
The Duchy of Wurtemburg
The Duchy of Lorraine                        
The Holy Roman Emperor (Austria, &c)
Principality of Prussia-Brandenburg    
The Tsardom of Russia
Principality of Poland (Commonwealth)  
Duchy of Lithuania (Commonwealth)
Polish Ukraine (Commonwealth)          
Duchy of Courland (Commonwealth)

I couldn't decide what name to call them
Ottoman Anatolia (Sultanate)              
Ottoman Europe/Rumelia (Sultanate)
Ottoman Syria(Sultanate)                  
Ottoman/Mameluke Egypt (Sultanate)
Principality of Moldavia (Sultanate)      
Principality of Wallachia (Sultanate)      
Khanate of the Crimean Tartars     
Shahdom of Persia
Sultanate of Oman                            
Sharif of Hejaz

India
Moghul India                                  
The Maharatas
The Rajputs                                    
Gujerat
Afghans


Africa
The Asante Union                            
Kingdom of the Rozwi
Empire of the Abyssinians                  

Asia
Kingdom of Burma                            
Kingdom of Siam
Shansi province (Imperial China)        
Kwantung province (China)
Shantung province (China)                
Kingdom of Korea (Imperial China)
Manchuria province(China)                
Shogunate of Imperial Japan

Pirates
Wako Japanese pirates
Blackbeard (West Indies pirate)
William Kidd (West Indies pirate)
Madagascan pirates


Exiled
The Jacobites (in exile)
The Camisards (Huguenots rebels)


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Re: Which TGOK game positions have never been played?

Post by Jason on Sat Apr 16, 2016 4:45 pm

I have played Hanover, Manchuria and Moldova. I know the Maharatas, Bavaria, Burma, Siam and Korea have been played and certain Shansi Province has been too.

Has anyone ever played Lorraine? Can't recall it and I've always imagined it would be too much under risk from French attack to play
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Re: Which TGOK game positions have never been played?

Post by Deacon on Sat Apr 16, 2016 5:36 pm


Korea was played for a time in game 8.
Sharif was played for a time in game 8.
Ottoman Syria was played in game 8. (think it still might be, don't know)
Ottoman Anatolia is played in game 8.
Burma was played in game 8.

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Re: Which TGOK game positions have never been played?

Post by Stuart Bailey on Sat Apr 16, 2016 7:36 pm

Ref unplayed positions:

Europe

I can confirm that I have seen all the listed positions played apart from Hesse-Kessel & Wurtemburg. Who both seem landlocked Imperial states without a lot to recommend them.

From back copies of G2 I ordered when joining this game I believe Lorraine was played for a short while as a French Ally in G2. This was the odd period when France declared a Republic and attempted to fight the revolutionary wars 100 years early. Not a great success I understand.

Aside from this odd situation I wonder if Lorraine is more playable as a junior French position rather than as a Gernan State?

Naturally a lot depends on the main French Player. Some players hate shared positions and view junior positions hanging round their court or running a trade company as rivals to be crushed. But some others dont seem to mind.

If anyone fancies running the House of Orleans (Lorraine) G10 seems like a good option......since if the French Monarchy in G10 does not seem bothered by Jacobites & Corsairs its probably happy to play nice with some of the Kings relatives.


India

- Have only known Moguls,Mahra & Persians played and non of the smaller positions which I think is a pity since the C18 is a very interesting period in Indian History inc the biggest battle of the century.


Ottomans

- We seem to have ticked off everyone apart from Oman and perhaps Wallachia. Recall a Kingdom of Rumania in G2 which may have started life as Wallachia? Or Moldavia?
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Re: Which TGOK game positions have never been played?

Post by Kingmaker on Sat Apr 16, 2016 8:57 pm

seen Wurtemburg played in game 3 he took over Saxony as well so a joint Principlality


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Re: Which TGOK game positions have never been played?

Post by Basileus on Sat Apr 23, 2016 7:13 am

Hesse Kassel is also a live position in game 10.
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Re: Which TGOK game positions have never been played?

Post by Rozwi_Game10 on Sat Apr 23, 2016 9:50 am

Thank you, everyone, for your input. I believe I've updated the list correctly.

As to my own interest in Gujerat, I decided to not take the position and only play in Game 10.

I prefer the limited build options of the Rozwi position and the more, singular game route offered by this African position. I've played other states in the past where the full options of construction and research was available to me and I, honestly, didn't know where to focus and lost myself pursuing too many things. In the past, I found playing as a Pirate a lot easier than playing as a state, but I didn't play the position wisely nor as ruthlessly as I possibly should have.

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Re: Which TGOK game positions have never been played?

Post by Kingmaker on Sat Apr 23, 2016 11:53 am

Principality of Wallachia (Sultanate)                   [possibly been played]
Khanate of the Crimean Tartars 

these have been played, think I played Tartars breifly


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