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So how long is yours then? [Not what you think!]

Post by Rozwi_Game10 on Tue May 09, 2017 1:19 pm

Just out of interest, how many pages do people's Turn Sheets come to? [Don't know what they're officially called, but the pages which list your characters/armies/towns etc.]

Got to wondering, last night, looking over my own nation's turn sheets [Rozwi #10] and realised that I'm only a small to medium sized playing position yet have x6 sides of A4 pages (not including the Treasury sheet, or Orders Militaire sheet [Postal Players Only]) listing all Rozwi's assets and characters, treaties and doctrines and improved localised maps.

I once played as Great Britain, and Russia, but not for long in either case and can't remember how many pages those playing positions ran to. Just wondered, out of interest, if anyone would care to enlighten me?

[I seem to remember, whilst playing Black Beard the Pirate that it was only x2 sides of A4 pages.]
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Post by The Real Louis on Tue May 09, 2017 1:51 pm

A simple numerical anser - I can cope with that. June 1707 in Game 8, France's print-out came in at 32 sides (perhaps somewhat padded-out by my predecessor's habit of naming every individual until etc. at great length).
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Post by revvaughan on Tue May 09, 2017 7:29 pm

The UK in Game 8 is over 50 pages. I will have to look it up but by far it is the largest.

Game 10 I am running about 25 pages total and in Scramble for Empire it is sitting at around 15.
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Post by Jason on Tue May 09, 2017 8:00 pm

G10 Scotland is 5 pages though I'd say perhaps 1.5 pages of that is details of laws I've introduced and because some units I've created I've given quite a lot of detail for (4 lines for one unit).

G9 Kwantung is 9 pages but again a lot is 'extra' details

G7 Russia was 39 pages
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Post by The Real Louis on Wed May 10, 2017 11:43 am

revvaughan wrote:The UK in Game 8 is over 50 pages.

Curses! I was hoping to over-awe with 32, instead it's vice-versa. (Perhaps Richard should consider a how-many-pages table as well as Honour and Markets).

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Post by Nexus06 on Wed May 10, 2017 1:46 pm

Just 10sides page A4 for Russia in Game 9, about to become 12 soon.
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Post by Deacon on Wed May 10, 2017 2:18 pm

Hispania in game 8: 55 pages.
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Post by revvaughan on Wed May 10, 2017 3:16 pm

The Real Louis wrote:
revvaughan wrote:The UK in Game 8 is over 50 pages.

Curses! I was hoping to over-awe with 32, instead it's vice-versa. (Perhaps Richard should consider a how-many-pages table as well as Honour and Markets).

The problem for me is I am a printer... I have to print the turn and write all over it. It is a good thing that one of the largest industries in my area is forestry! I have to do something to keep the price of timber high so my pine plantations are worth cutting.

It is amazing how complex things become over time.
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Post by Deacon on Wed May 10, 2017 3:20 pm

revvaughan wrote:
The Real Louis wrote:
revvaughan wrote:The UK in Game 8 is over 50 pages.

Curses! I was hoping to over-awe with 32, instead it's vice-versa. (Perhaps Richard should consider a how-many-pages table as well as Honour and Markets).

The problem for me is I am a printer... I have to print the turn and write all over it. It is a good thing that one of the largest industries in my area is forestry! I have to do something to keep the price of timber high so my pine plantations are worth cutting.

It is amazing how complex things become over time.

Extra pages is _not_ a bonus. I've had richard cut things over the years to try to reduce the size a bit. Richard can and will add some notation buried in your turn that if you don't catch will bite you, so you really should go through every page.

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Post by Nexus06 on Thu May 11, 2017 8:30 am

Deacon wrote:
revvaughan wrote:
The Real Louis wrote:
revvaughan wrote:The UK in Game 8 is over 50 pages.

Curses! I was hoping to over-awe with 32, instead it's vice-versa. (Perhaps Richard should consider a how-many-pages table as well as Honour and Markets).

The problem for me is I am a printer... I have to print the turn and write all over it. It is a good thing that one of the largest industries in my area is forestry! I have to do something to keep the price of timber high so my pine plantations are worth cutting.

It is amazing how complex things become over time.

Extra pages is _not_ a bonus. I've had richard cut things over the years to try to reduce the size a bit. Richard can and will add some notation buried in your turn that if you don't catch will bite you, so you really should go through every page.

He does this?!

I've had the impression of it, and took a separate note not to forget those stuffs, but i wasn't really sure it was part of the game or just "roleplaying".

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Post by J Flower on Thu May 11, 2017 11:39 am

Think the length of turn is tied up with a lot of things Obviously the size of the initial position is a major factor, then if you start naming every Regiment & Ship, giving them all Colonels & captains etc, you add a few pages, then you can send ambassadors around every position you ever get a letter from, add in trade missions in every named town/ city you can find on the map. If you want to send out spies as well....

Then you get onto the trade treaties & the 100 & 1 other things you can get a treaty for.
Length of time you play a game will certainly have a major input on turn reply length, so is the nature of the beast.

G2 as little Prussia I went from the initial 2 sheets up to 58 but that was over almost 35 game years.
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Post by revvaughan on Thu May 11, 2017 3:41 pm

JFlower you are so right... I had forgotten about the tomes that were the Game 2 turns for the British. Sheesh!
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Post by Ardagor on Thu May 11, 2017 3:47 pm

America`s Republic in Game 3 grew from 6 pages in 1736 to 24 pages at the end

Persia in Game 7 is 24 pages

Kwantung Province in Game 8 is 32 pages

Moghul India in Game 9 is 23 pages
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Post by Deacon on Thu May 11, 2017 7:40 pm


To be fair, hispania is effectively two realms, portugal and spain.

I haven't named many units, but once you start building forces around the globe, sending out ambassadors, signing treaties, building fortresses and academies, and all that, the turn really balloons.

I will say that this is also why I really _really_ like getting the turn electronically. I can actually search the turn to find stuff rather than just paging through and looking.

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Post by J Flower on Fri May 12, 2017 10:05 am

On the subject of long turn papers, I am trying to find a list of Regimental names for Dutch Regiments, has anyone had any success on this if you have could you please give me a link . Thank you.
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Post by one grain of grain on Fri May 12, 2017 10:46 am

J Flower wrote:On the subject of long turn papers, I am trying to find a list of Regimental names for Dutch Regiments, has anyone had any success on this if you have could you please give me a link . Thank you.

Hi J.

I have this book, "The Dutch Army of William III" by C A Sapherson. published in 1990 by Raider Books : ISBN 1 870445 31 7
Appendix I a list of regiments and their titles 1688-1702
Appendix II regiments of Dutch army in British pay
Appendix III strength of the Garde du Corps 1684
Appendix IV the strength of the Dutch horse in 1702

I think I purchased it from Caliver Books. www.caliverbooks.com
just checked online its under links : Partizan press
If you have no luck finding details online PM me with your email details.

Cheers.

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Post by Ardagor on Fri May 12, 2017 7:15 pm

Flags and uniforms of the Dutch army 1685 - 1715 Volume 1 & 2 by Pike and Shot Society is extensive on the subject but not cheap.
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Post by MarkTurner26 on Fri May 12, 2017 8:03 pm

I have four games going, two of them are secret SSHHHHHH!!!!!

Game 7: 9 Pages
Ottomans Game 8: 17 Pages
Saxony Game 9: 11 Pages
Game 10: 9 Pages

Now I have been playing the Ottomans the longest out of the lot, but I only have had 1 Saxon turn so far. So I expect Saxony to get even longer.
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Post by Deacon on Fri May 12, 2017 8:20 pm


Game 10: 5 pages before correspondence

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Post by J Flower on Sat May 13, 2017 10:55 am

http://www.spanishsuccession.nl/organisation.html

I managed to find this link which gives a list of Regimental names of some of the major protagonists for anyone wanting to lengthen their turn replies in game.
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Post by The Real Louis on Sat May 13, 2017 12:12 pm

J Flower wrote:http://www.spanishsuccession.nl/organisation.html

I managed to find this link which gives a list of Regimental names of some of the major protagonists for anyone wanting to lengthen their turn replies in game.

That's an extraordinarily useful reference! Wish I'd had it turn before last, when I tried to put some organisation into the heterogeneous mass of military left me by my predecessor (every unit named in detail, but no organisation whatsoever).
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Post by Rozwi_Game10 on Mon May 15, 2017 3:05 pm

Thanks everyone. Very useful to see how large your positions have grown to. I get my game turns through the post, so I can't imagine how much postage stamps it would cost to send me 50+ pages & the newspaper.

Rozwi started as a single page of A4 (x1 side of paper), but it is growing... I'm not sure its a good thing, or not!

Yes, I check every single little piece of information on every page of my turn sheets, as, as Deacon says, there's sometimes small snippets of important information added to a character's or unit's description that can easily missed.

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