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Creating individuals in regiments-worth the effort?

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Creating individuals in regiments-worth the effort?

Post by Jason on Mon Apr 09, 2018 9:00 pm

A slightly different question for you.

I suspect some of you have heard of Kit Kavanagh https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Davies under one of the names she went by. The short version is she enlisted in the British army (or should that be armies?) at the end of the 17th Century disguised as a man and again at the beginning of 18th, in an attempt to find her husband (who may have been press-ganged or may have volunteered to join up). She has quite a career, both before being discovered and afterwards

At the stage G10 is at, she was serving in the Royal Regiment of Scots Dragoons (Royal Scot Greys), in disguise of course-no one knew she was a woman.

Is it worth creating her in-game? Of course, she would have to be in disguise but perhaps it could offer Richard the chance to have a little 'hidden joke' in news reports, etc? or is it more "Scramble" than "Glory"?

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Re: Creating individuals in regiments-worth the effort?

Post by Stuart Bailey on Tue Apr 10, 2018 9:09 pm

Individuals in regiments ?! Some of us have enough to do just finding a General/Commanding officer for each formation yet alone individual rank and file/junior officers.

Think in Glori its probably worth while having a No2/Cavalry commander for armies and perhaps a No3/Artillery commander for armies so if your general gets killed someone is around to take over.

In scrabble (and this will probably work in other games) if you send a Herald etc.......Richard normally gives them a name shortly before he does something nasty to them and such characters tend to remain on your list.

Sir Thomas Hardinge gained a valet (James Thoroughgood) when someone dropped a greenhouse on him & I think Captain Darcy gained a whole squad of names just before he and they vanished. While Bismarck has had loads of Mistresses with names shortly before they we shot, blown up, posioned, taken captive by the Reds etc.

Basically getting a "name" in scabble is really bad for your health, probably the same in other games as well.
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Post by one grain of grain on Wed Apr 11, 2018 1:22 pm

Stuart Bailey wrote:Basically getting a "name" in scabble is really bad for your health, probably the same in other games as well.

Has anyone tried to pre-empt Richard ? Say by creating personalities like "Sid the bullet dodger" or "Fred the poison flusher" or is that tempting fate to much.

Jason I must admit that the 1700s is not my normal war gaming period and am learning as I go, however I was reading a book on the American Civil War and it had references to females in the army, With one union officer writing a letter home to his wife in which he stated that tonight one of his Sergeants had given birth to a baby girl, the most amusing was a private who fought through the entire war and attended the regiment reunions for 11 years always smartly dressed in her uniform then one year she turned up in a dress which caused much confusion with her fellow veterans who never new he had been a she.

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Re: Creating individuals in regiments-worth the effort?

Post by Deacon on Wed Apr 11, 2018 4:34 pm


I think it depends upon your aims. Richard will likely go along with the roleplay, but will likely also feed the roleplay with issues and challenges. So I think all-in it would be a mild disadvantage to the unit, but much more roleplay/fun potential if you want that. Hard to know.

At the start, I roleplayed a lot more with my ministers but it seemed to only generate grief for me, so I quit doing it. Though perhaps the issue was that in the long-winded conversations my order objective got lost...

I think as Kingmaker has said, roleplaying tends to work better with ambassadors. I've done that a bit in game 8 with my french ambassador who is a patron of the arts.
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Post by Jason on Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:33 pm

one grain of grain wrote:
Stuart Bailey wrote:Basically getting a "name" in scabble is really bad for your health, probably the same in other games as well.

Has anyone tried to pre-empt Richard ? Say by creating personalities like "Sid the bullet dodger" or "Fred the poison flusher" or is that tempting fate to much.

Jason I must admit that the 1700s is not my normal war gaming period and am learning as I go, however I was reading a book on the American Civil War and it had references to females in the army, With one union officer writing a letter home to his wife in which he stated that tonight one of his Sergeants had given birth to a baby girl, the most amusing was a private who fought through the entire war and attended the regiment reunions for 11 years always smartly dressed in her uniform then one year she turned up in a dress which caused much confusion with her fellow veterans who never new he had been a she.

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It's surprising how many women there seem to have been in the ranks sometimes Smile Have you read Terry Practhett's "Monstrous Regiment"? Takes the idea to the extreme Very Happy
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Re: Creating individuals in regiments-worth the effort?

Post by Jason on Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:34 pm

Thanks for the comments guys...think you're right, on balance maybe not the best idea I've had this week Smile
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Re: Creating individuals in regiments-worth the effort?

Post by one grain of grain on Wed Apr 11, 2018 9:30 pm

Jason wrote:It's surprising how many women there seem to have been in the ranks sometimes Smile Have you read Terry Practhett's "Monstrous Regiment"? Takes the idea to the extreme Very Happy

No can't say I have read that book by Terry Practhett. I did remember that some of my info came from a lecture on youtube from the Gettysburg National Park Service by Ranger John Nicholas on the "life of a Civil War Soldier" in it he mentions that 240 women served with the Confederate Army and about 400 on the Union side, another interesting fact he mentions is after the Gettysburg battle 28,000 Muskets were recovered from the battlefield of those 24,000 were found to be loaded, of those 12,000 had more than 1 round loaded, 6,000 had between 3 to 10 rounds loaded and 1 musket was found to have 23 rounds loaded in its barrel, it seems the poor fellow kept forgetting to fit the firing cap on before pulling the trigger.

Also I do remember a number of women served in the ranks in Napoleon's Armies including one who became quite famous, she enlisted so as to serve with her husband and stood beside him in a number of battles and continued to serve after her husband had been killed.

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Re: Creating individuals in regiments-worth the effort?

Post by Nexus06 on Thu Apr 12, 2018 7:19 am

I’d love to try to contribute to the discussion.

I’m currently involved in one singe game, into a building strategy with little “neightboughs” around. So letters are little and since you invest and wait for the ROI, somehing has to be done. I do not have a colonial empire therefore the running of current business is little but not none. Introducing single characters seemed to be a good idea, someone to roleplay with, but i have to agree that Richard has always been honest on that point. Every character has his own set of ambitions and objectives, and they are not always yours. Richard himself trhown in the game some characters to take care of, so i really feel no need to put others on mi side. I think it’s a nce idea but i would move on Smile

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