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Raising money

Post by Guest on Fri Oct 29, 2010 12:29 pm

Hi

I thought it may be useful to all of us (and me) if we had a thread to list the ways to raise money in a hurry?

For example;

Selling titles, a state lottery etc...

Anyone got anymore?


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Re: Raising money

Post by jamesbond007 on Fri Oct 29, 2010 1:50 pm

The above will only raise smaller amounts.The best ways to raise big money is too. Take out a loan. Sell alot of recruits.Sell land. Obviously, there is no easy way to raise funds, and raising funds in a hurry, will cost you dearly, one way or another.

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Post by baggins on Sat Oct 30, 2010 12:15 am

you could sell government bonds. one of the first government bond's was issued by the English government in 1693 to raise money to fund a war against France. Louis XIV also raised bonds this way against the English. These were in the form of a tontine.

i have not done this (yet) so be good to hear from anyone who has had experience.
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Re: Raising money

Post by Kingmaker on Sat Oct 30, 2010 11:43 am

I would rather LEASE land to some one that way you get a fixed income every year till the leas expires OR you can up the rental or include clauses if he does some thing to it that is not in your interests....

Never sell land it loses you recruits and income......

Try offering missions for a fixed sum but also limit what they can teach/build to that nation.

Titles are no good as the lose you money in the long run offering commisions means you get people with money in charge of armies etc who have no idea and leads to poor performance in battles.

Lotteries are ok BUT depend on how many tickets you are selling to make enough to cover the prize money.....


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Re: Raising money

Post by jamesbond007 on Sun Oct 31, 2010 10:05 am

Leaseing land sounds good. But who would want to lease land,that offers no recruits or income? Also i would imagine that you could only get a small amount of money this way.
Of course, there is a way of gaining ground,recruits and income.Take it by force, battle.
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Re: Raising money

Post by Kingmaker on Sun Oct 31, 2010 12:53 pm

No, land can be used for instance getting Russia a warm water port, lettting a nation use a port for military/trade reason.
By using force you will lose troops in battle, cost etc it would have t be a large area to make it while.

Leasing can be good if they upgrade the port, fortress etc stating that when finished ti becomes yours for such and such a sum


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Re: Raising money

Post by jamesbond007 on Sun Oct 31, 2010 2:00 pm

I suppose the real answer is. Never spend more money than you can comfortably afford.

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Re: Raising money

Post by count-de-monet on Sun Oct 31, 2010 4:02 pm

PRINT IT !

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Post by jamesbond007 on Sun Oct 31, 2010 4:11 pm

The Count knows what happened to me, when i printed it. My currency ended up being de-valued by ten per cent.
You are at the mercy of Richard and agema, if you print it.
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Re: Raising money

Post by Kingmaker on Sun Oct 31, 2010 4:53 pm

printing will not work you need to look whree you can cut back or lease stuff or hire out missions.

even ervaluing your currentcy can take a few years.....and it makes the money in th treasury at the time half its value


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Re: Raising money

Post by the great unwashed on Sun Oct 31, 2010 11:57 pm

Never forget when selling recruits that in effect you are selling off your own population. Sell too many and your economic health will suffer.
In times of crisis it does no harm raising a one off levy/war tax or whatever you wish to call it. A good case needs to be made for this but the results can be well worth the effort.
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Re: Raising money

Post by revvaughan on Mon Nov 01, 2010 12:05 am

Also... Don't forget to speak to those wealthy allies... I have given plenty to my allies in the games that I am able to do so in.

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Re: Raising money

Post by baggins on Mon Nov 01, 2010 7:36 pm

has anyone tried issuing government bonds? and if so how?
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Re: Raising money

Post by Kingmaker on Mon Nov 01, 2010 8:59 pm

can be BUT as I said you have to pay out in the future and who knows if you have enough then to do it?


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Re: Raising money

Post by revvaughan on Tue Nov 02, 2010 2:42 am

I have not issued any government bonds in my positions. However, a loan could be obtained from a bank in the game for a better interest rate than the repay requirements on the bonds.

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Re: Raising money

Post by Guest on Tue Nov 02, 2010 12:35 pm

Has anyone also noted that some games seem to have certain qualities? For example - there seems to be an lot of gold in G6 compared to others I've been (or am) in.

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Re: Raising money

Post by Kingmaker on Tue Nov 02, 2010 4:50 pm

thta depends on how many countries are miining it or have bothered to check on line if thre is any in their area....


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Re: Raising money

Post by Jason on Tue Nov 02, 2010 10:55 pm

I don't think there is really an 'easy' way but a bank loan is perhaps the easiest...if you can afford the yearly interest payments if nothing else
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Re: Raising money

Post by Kingmaker on Wed Nov 03, 2010 3:56 pm

hmmm banks ae ok BUT if you default on the loan then you will have a hard time getting a loan again PLUS you honour will nose dive....


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Re: Raising money

Post by Jason on Wed Nov 03, 2010 9:49 pm

Kingmaker wrote:hmmm banks ae ok BUT if you default on the loan then you will have a hard time getting a loan again PLUS you honour will nose dive....

True. A bit like real life Shocked

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Post by jamesbond007 on Thu Nov 04, 2010 8:16 am

I must pass comment on the note of Albreda. Regarding how games are different, and more gold appears in game six.
In game eight, i am Spain. I have tried twice to discover gold and failed both times.Spain had the most gold in the eighteenth century. A friend of mine, who plays spain in game six, informs me that he started off already with gold finds in game six. He started with a million a year in gold, i started with nothing. From scratch, it would take me several years to find and develop that same quantity.
So Albreda is correct in what he says about the difference in games. There are HUGE differences.The above fact proves it.
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Re: Raising money

Post by Kingmaker on Sat Nov 06, 2010 1:01 pm

I also believe Richard rolls out what each nation has to start with although some things are set in stone. It makes the game more varied and stops people playing the same nation with the same resources etc.

BUT if you look up and research and invest then you can get some decent mines etc.


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Re: Raising money

Post by Marshal Bombast on Sun Nov 07, 2010 1:29 pm

jamesbond007 wrote:I must pass comment on the note of Albreda. Regarding how games are different, and more gold appears in game six.
In game eight, i am Spain. I have tried twice to discover gold and failed both times...

I believe there is a recommended frequency for prospectors and their success. Main rulebook suggests once every three months or longer being better - don't have book handy at the moment.

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Re: Raising money

Post by Guest on Thu Jun 30, 2011 8:00 pm

I know this topic may be a little old now, but I found the easiest way to raise money is simply to put up taxes.
I made the mistake in one game of keeping a 0% tax rate for my nobles. With the experience I now have that was a crazy thing to do. Raising taxes by 1% will raise a significant amount of money for many positions and although EH might be hit in the very short term, provided the money is wisely used it should get you out of a jam.
Hope this helps.
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Re: Raising money

Post by Kingmaker on Thu Jun 30, 2011 8:57 pm

yes BUT default and you will find it very hard to loan again.


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