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    The Glory of Kings... wiki!!

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    Post by tek_604 Wed Feb 02, 2011 9:47 am

    I just created a wiki for The Glory of Kings!

    Anyone can log in, and edit it, with all kinds of useful information.

    http://lgdr.wikia.com/

    I hope we can all start adding information!
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    Post by Kingmaker Wed Feb 02, 2011 5:19 pm

    just put up a page about game 3 on it and will continue to update it as the game goes on. Any one want to do one for game 8?
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    Post by tek_604 Thu Feb 03, 2011 6:31 am

    Once I've completed my game 8 turn, I'll start to organize the wiki a bit. Set up categories, and some easy way of navigating.

    I might even have a pop at our wikipedia article also.
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    Post by Kingmaker Thu Feb 03, 2011 10:55 am

    excellant...
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    Post by Kingmaker Thu Feb 03, 2011 1:21 pm

    any one want to do the other games?
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    Post by Kingmaker Thu Feb 03, 2011 5:04 pm

    BTW have added some coats of arms to each of the pages so far not really to imply any thing just to give it some colour....
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    Post by Kingmaker Sat Feb 05, 2011 3:05 pm

    Ok have added game 7 can some one take this one and keep it up to date please....
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    Post by tek_604 Sun Feb 06, 2011 7:12 pm

    Having just finished my game 8 turn, I e-mailed Richard to ask for confirmation as to what, if anything, we can wikify and add to the site.

    If we get Richard's permission, then I would like to wikify:

    * some of the rulebook
    * all the in game maps
    * all in game newspapers (I have a plan to automate this...)

    All this material is copyrighted, hence my e-mail to Richard. What I want to avoid is the game histories becoming POV articles. We should try to keep opinion out of these articles, and report simply the facts.
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    Post by tek_604 Sun Feb 06, 2011 8:24 pm

    Beginner's Guide is now wikified.

    Also, added some categories:

    * Game Summaries
    * Rules & Guides

    All game summary pages should be named "Game x", so that they all look nice in the category!
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    Post by Kingmaker Sun Feb 06, 2011 8:50 pm

    well done do not forget the Advanced guide as well Very Happy
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    Post by Deacon Mon Feb 07, 2011 4:00 am


    I think archiving the newspapers would be a HUGE advantage.

    As one of the late joiners to an early game, the lack of detailed game history has really hampered my ability to really integrate into the game.
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    Post by tek_604 Mon Feb 07, 2011 7:08 am

    Well, good news everyone! I got a reply from Richard...

    "Publish away!"

    So, thats a yes then haha

    Looks like plenty of work coming up. So, now we need to organise the delivery and conversion of in game newspapers.... Conversion I should be able to do, I'll start work on an automated system tonight. Who has an archive?
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    Post by Kingmaker Mon Feb 07, 2011 1:57 pm

    I have game 8 from the start but game 3 is in paper format.
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    Post by tek_604 Mon Feb 07, 2011 2:09 pm

    Automatic conversion is proving problematic. Trying to find a decent enough format to get the text out, ready for conversion. And this will only work on papers which are recent.

    I might have to see if Richard has them archived.
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    Post by Kingmaker Mon Feb 07, 2011 2:27 pm

    he does I think I have asked for some before....
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    Post by revvaughan Mon Feb 07, 2011 2:52 pm

    At one point we were going to speak to Richard about this idea. Even to the point of trying to get them placed on a disc or something so that AGEMA could put the up for a price. I would purchase a disc of back issues so that I could have a great background of the games that I am in.

    Perhaps, it is time to take it to Richard.
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    Post by Kingmaker Mon Feb 07, 2011 2:56 pm

    interesting idea i too would be interested
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    Post by revvaughan Mon Feb 07, 2011 3:11 pm

    I would be willing to do some of the work, but that would require him to send paper files and that could cost.
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    Post by Kingmaker Mon Feb 07, 2011 3:12 pm

    I have sent him an email asking if it is possible and does he have the back issues, awaiting a responce....
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    Post by tek_604 Mon Feb 07, 2011 4:20 pm

    I have also sent him an e-mail requesting the exact same thing haha

    I've been looking into how to convert PDF straight into text ready for the wiki, but its not so easy. While it is easy enough to automate Acrobat to open the file, and export the file, getting it into a nice format where I can convert the text into "wiki-text" is not so easy. And even when I do this, some text comes out, and some doesn't. So, it might require some manual editing.

    If anyone has any ideas, I would be welcome to hear them!
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    Post by tek_604 Tue Feb 08, 2011 6:52 am

    Well, made some progress yesterday. Found a website which converts PDF to HTML better than Acrobat does lol

    From this, I plan on parsing the HTML, and then writing a wiki article ready for uploading as a copy and paste. I installed the tools I'll need last night, and I am pretty sure the classes I need will do the trick Smile
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    Post by Kingmaker Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:04 am

    Kingmaker wrote:I have sent him an email asking if it is possible and does he have the back issues, awaiting a responce....

    ok he does have all copies archived and can do this but it wont be for a while as it will take time to get it all sorted but he is intending to do it..... cheers
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    Post by revvaughan Tue Feb 08, 2011 3:03 pm

    This will be awesome... Can you imagine being able to get a full history for a nation in Game II. Great NEWS!
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    Post by tek_604 Sun Feb 20, 2011 6:10 pm

    Latest news...

    I have given up trying to write an application to automatically create wiki pages from the PDFs. The PDF layout is horrible, and is horrible for parsing.

    But, I have started to manually publish the papers from game 8. I'll finish off the remaining papers tonight, until Clash of the Titans comes on...

    Here come the newspaper publishing rules...
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    Post by tek_604 Sun Feb 20, 2011 6:13 pm

    There is a naming scheme to be followed:

    Month Year (Game Number), for example:

    January 1700 ( 8 )

    Once the page is created, there is a template you need to follow. Take a look at January 1700 for game 8 to get the idea.

    Add category!! Don't forget to add the newspaper to the Game No. category. Again, take a look at January 1700 ( 8 ) to see what I mean.

    I'll keep an eye on papers that get posted, and make corrections if they're needed, but it should all be relatively straight forward.


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