G7 - France vs. England

Regor wrote:D - I agree with you on the power play between Jacobites and France but they are natural allies. But Austria has got no real cause against France (in my mind) and the RJC has taken away his reason for war. Unless Leopold is just out to cause damage but his honour must be dribbling away whilst France's might even now be rising.

How Agema sees it is, of course, the kicker, but I think Leopold was looking for an excuse for war with france to try to reclaim historically lost territory.... and picked a bad one. For the holy roman emperor to be backing a protestant claimant to the English Throne, even after parliament acknowledged stuart, while having his ambassador brought in to witness/participate in the murder of a catholic monarch is kinda nutty to me. He kept to that line this turn, too. But history has made far stranger bedfellows.

Despite the new players, I don't expect anybody to blink any time soon. I would bet that Austria will take the honour loss in stride and keep pushing, or to try to bluff France into agreeing to peace with him keeping what he has taken. Not a deal I'd be inclined to take as France, but then I'm not looking at the French turn so who knows?

Deacon! You've given me an excellent idea!

Well, I'd call it excellent. Others will call it something very different

Thanks

The Real John Churchill wrote:Deacon! You've given me an excellent idea!

Well, I'd call it excellent. Others will call it something very different

Thanks

You frighten me, sir

Lol.

This ones a corker if it works. On the other hand, it could go down like one of Baldrick's by the time I try it out.

But either way, I'm genuinely greatful.

George: "I've just had another brilliant idea."
Edmund: "Another one?"
George: "Yes, you remember the one I had about wearing underpants on the outside to save on laundry bills."

Now I have to go rewatch some Black Adder!

Favourite season?

I'm torn between 3 and 4.

Let me guess RJC...your cunning plan is to become friends with France...by cutting W4's head off and making James king?

Haha. Jason, I'm reminded of this scene;


Melchett: Good man. Now, Field Marshal Haig has formulated a

brilliant new tactical plan to ensure final victory in the

field. [they gather around a model of the battlefield]



Blackadder: Now, would this brilliant plan involve us climbing out of

our trenches and walking slowly towards the enemy sir?



Darling: How can you possibly know that Blackadder? It's classified

information.



Blackadder: It's the same plan that we used last time, and the

seventeen times before that.



Melchett: E-E-Exactly! And that is what so brilliant about it! We

will catch the watchful Hun totally off guard! Doing

precisely what we have done eighteen times before is

exactly the last thing they'll expect us to do this time!

well, the peace-loving government of France will be interested in your actions...we need a laugh

Good grief.............looks like I will now have to become "The Real Stuart Bailey"..........to avoid confusion with fake copies no doubt mass produced to a shoddy standard in China.

I was just wondering if the Austrian Govt run into problems by Regor due to lack of background info was:

1) The G2 Austrian Government which attacked Prussia.........when Prussia was in the Warsaw Pact Alliance with Russia, Sweden & Poland?

or

2) The Austrian Govt which attacked Hungary without being aware of Hungarian links to Prussia & Rumelia? Such as the King of Hungary being a ex Ottoman Commander married to the King of Prussia's sister.

or

3) The Austrian Govt which marched into a Rumelian Town on about its first turn and threw the Ottoman GV flag into the ditch.


As any of these Austrian moves are worthy enteries for the Agema List of insane starting moves the loss of the eye has clearly worked for for our sage.

Compared to what other Austrian Governments have done Leopold wanting to fight to the last Englishman to reclaim some or all of his lost family lands seems fairly normal and even historic to me. Bit of a change from the normal position in Glory du Roi were the English fight the French to the last German. Give it time however and I have faith in the RJC to restore normality

Stuart,

I was blissfully ignorant of these insanities until you filled my head with them. Now I shall have to go drink them all away!

If that is what passes for normal Austrian conduct in other games, then I should think Game 7 Leopold bearing William's children would be positively normal in comparison!

PS. Thank God all 4 seasons of Black Adder are on netflix and I shall be have something to distract me while I drink!

This is not so much an "I'm Spartacus" moment but rather a "HE's Startacus"! one ....

The Real John Churchill wrote:

Favourite season?

I'm torn between 3 and 4.

I'd always go for 3...4 is excellent but 3 just hits my humour more (plus it fits in with Glory better )

Excuse me, must go and prepare some cunning plans...

I think 3 is my personal favorite too.

Deacon wrote:Stuart,

I was blissfully ignorant of these insanities until you filled my head with them. Now I shall have to go drink them all away!

If that is what passes for normal Austrian conduct in other games, then I should think Game 7 Leopold bearing William's children would be positively normal in comparison!

PS. Thank God all 4 seasons of Black Adder are on netflix and I shall be have something to distract me while I drink!

After what deacon said and other people were saying about how horrid it would be if the Ottomans ever co-operated (but it will never happen) here are some thoughts from the Bailey vault of horrors:

1) I have seen Ottoman co-operation ......After the revolt of Moldavia/Wallachia with Polish backing the Sultan sent his Loyal Boot Boy AKA The Grand Vizier/Leyerbey of Rumelia to to crush said revolt. GV was slowly getting on top of things when the King of Poland rode South............only to meet the Sultan in the place of honour on the right, Infantry in the centre commanded by the eldest son of the Bay of Egypt and the GV commanding the left. 160,000 troops inc 80,000 Cavalry under banners from Belgrade to Baghdad.

It was horrid.........the King of Poland was still getting flash backs years later when ever someone proposed a Ottoman Campaign to him. Sadly someone who shall remain nameless got the great Crusader to have another go and he was killed in a ambush set by the Leyerbey.

2) The same Leyerbey of Rumelia was also responsible nailing a Spanish Envoy to the Gates of Varsailles before burning it down and for blinding a captive Army apart from every 100th man who was left with one eye.......this after the Leyerbey recieved an ultimatium to free his captives, pay compensation and withdraw................it was this Layerbeys flag a new Austrian Govt troops chucked into the ditch on about its first turn. Resulting in desperate thinking across Europe on the lines of is the Archduke really brave or really stupid. I was wondering if many years later Regor was going own up to deliberate insult or something else.

3) Final thought to drink away the man with the wet flag seems to share a scribe with a near neigbour of yours in G7. So far he seems to be sticking to the script but ..............one false move over the garden fence and "The Mad Axeman of Old Belgrade" could be back

Anyway welcome to G7 and sweet dreams

hahaha.

Oh dear, It makes me regret that I haven't been playing longer to witness such events.

Still, getting all those ottoman positions to cooperate to that level and coordinate armies that well is no mean feat. I don't think we'll see it in game 7.

In Game 8, it seems the Ottomans are coordinating better, but time will tell if that turns into violence or not.

What really impresses me how over time TRSB is morphing into the RKL - replies getting longer etc.

Really folks no offence meant but really TRSB Deacon and Jason are dangerous enough without you filling their heads with ........ideas!

And what's wrong with Number 2? (Who's Queen?)

And no, Stuart I never got that far in my Austrian interlude: I sent a few Dragoons on a journey - thats all - honest.

Finally I think the issues here remain as simple as if France sorts out her war with Austria and continues to support James (how could Louis do otherwise) then William and the Sons will have a fight on their hands.

Oh, I hear you say what about the UDP, Spain and the Ottomans ....... well we'll see.

"Tomorrow is another day!"

Looking forward to reading the newspaper next month: get your reply's in quick!

Don't hold your breath, I'm still waiting on game 3 (was due June 28th) and game 8(was due july 3rd) results, so I'm thinking Game 7 will take a bit of extra time. I'd guess Richard is taking a few days of well deserved holiday.

I'm just glad I'm going G7 by email...my turn if printed makes "War and Peace" look lightweight...

Yeah, the turns can get pretty long. In game 3 I have a couple of pages of the turn which is nothing but a listing of the entire college of cardinals!

Very useful, but all that stuff really does take up space.

It's nearly 40 pages in G8, that's excluding letters and the treasury sheet...

Well, France is hardly a small position, but 40 pages is a lot more than any of mine.

Hope it isn't all full of uniform descriptions!

I think I can report that not only has France a large, powerful and well-trained army...it also has the prettiest

40 pages is impressive, I have never been above 13.