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    Post by Guest Tue Aug 21, 2012 1:48 pm

    albreda wrote:England - a French Colony Smile It sounds almost quaint.

    I suppose if Mary hadn't invited the Williams over back in the 80's none of this would ever have happened. Rolling Eyes

    Strangely the whole situation in England did make me think the last time England was this much at the mercy of France was perhaps during the reign of King John, at the stage when the English nobles offered the crown to the Dauphin... Wink
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    Post by Guest Tue Aug 21, 2012 1:51 pm

    count-de-monet wrote:"maybe I'll just declare someone else to be Holy Roman Emperor"

    that would give us THREE "Holy Roman Emperors" in the game Very Happy

    You can never have too many...
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    Post by Guest Tue Aug 21, 2012 6:26 pm

    ...of course, I completely missed the Austrian offer of a truce made via the American senate starting in September...might need to alter some of my plans for this turn as a result...
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    Post by Basileus Tue Aug 21, 2012 6:57 pm

    where did the three Holy Roman Emperors come from? Shocked How come we are back to the peace solution requiring my head to be chopped off Rolling Eyes Old Louis yes, of course you are right in everything you say, I am wrong, you are right - we seem to be back to having my head chopped off again as the only viable, reasonable peace settlement because my honour score is dropping so rapidly Neutral and also because I am such a bad treaty breaking player who deserves to have biblical curses thrown at me (WTF !) The Empire is revolting against me, or is overun with French armies, my treasury is exhausted Crying or Very sad and the Dauphin is a mad fellah just like Old Louis, so it will be impossible to ever reach a reasonable peace settlement No My armies are defeated, and certainly not having new ones forming on the Rhine Basketball
    Perhaps I should just throw in the towel, but claim that really I have won but nobody else knows it or sees it? Suspect What do you think of that plan Old Louis?
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    Post by Guest Tue Aug 21, 2012 7:05 pm

    Don't worry, I wasn't thinking about cutting your head off Very Happy i was being more...domestic... Wink

    And I'm not mad...I have papers to prove it Very Happy

    And in all seriousness, reasonable peace is what we all want me thinks Smile


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    Post by Guest Tue Aug 21, 2012 7:30 pm

    Basileus wrote:where did the three Holy Roman Emperors come from? Shocked How come we are back to the peace solution requiring my head to be chopped off Rolling Eyes Old Louis yes, of course you are right in everything you say, I am wrong, you are right - we seem to be back to having my head chopped off again as the only viable, reasonable peace settlement because my honour score is dropping so rapidly Neutral and also because I am such a bad treaty breaking player who deserves to have biblical curses thrown at me (WTF !) The Empire is revolting against me, or is overun with French armies, my treasury is exhausted Crying or Very sad and the Dauphin is a mad fellah just like Old Louis, so it will be impossible to ever reach a reasonable peace settlement No My armies are defeated, and certainly not having new ones forming on the Rhine Basketball
    Perhaps I should just throw in the towel, but claim that really I have won but nobody else knows it or sees it? Suspect What do you think of that plan Old Louis?

    If I understood your post then I might be able to respond.

    I don't think I ever mentioned 3 Holy Roman Emperors - must have been someone else. It took a treaty for me to acknowledge you as Emperor, if you recall?

    As to biblical curses, if you read the passage again, it is a blessing on the son, quite appropriate for the Dauphin to profit from the righteousness of his father.

    Perhaps someone can enlighten me as to what all the abbreviations and smileys mean as such are beyond me!

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    Post by count-de-monet Tue Aug 21, 2012 7:44 pm

    we have the Imperial Holy Roman Emperor.

    We have the Tsar, who this very month was addressed by the Great Patriach "Holy Roman Emperor...for that is what you are" !!!! (something to do with with Moscow being recognised as the 3rd (or is it 4th?) Rome after the fall of Constantinople - so the true Christian Faith of Orthodoxy is now headed by Moscow. As such the Tsar is protector of "The Faith" and The Holy Roman Emperor.

    What I have realised is that the Great Patriach, as well as obviously enjoying the odd vodka like his ruler has (potentially) some very serious mental issues Very Happy

    So, if another Holy Roman Emperor was announced that would make three and possibly be the piece of news that sends Stefan over the edge.
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    Post by Guest Tue Aug 21, 2012 7:48 pm

    we could have a Spartacus moment coming on Very Happy
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    Post by Guest Tue Aug 21, 2012 8:04 pm

    If I recall, wasn't Spartacus crucified along with his followers? You can't want to crucify all 3 emperors, surely? Bit rough on the Tsar as a loyal ally of France.

    Keep going like this and you'll be as unpopular as me lol!
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    Post by Guest Tue Aug 21, 2012 8:06 pm

    The Real Louis of France wrote:
    If I recall, wasn't Spartacus crucified along with his followers? You can't want to crucify all 3 emperors, surely? Bit rough on the Tsar as a loyal ally of France.

    Keep going like this and you'll be as unpopular as me lol!

    Can't I have an easier goal...like conquering the whole of Europe Razz
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    Post by Guest Tue Aug 21, 2012 8:16 pm

    Who'd want it? You've got the best bits, which is why so many are keen to get their hands on them. Avarice and jealousy, very unpleasant! You just need to clear the infestation of ferrets away and then you can live in peace. Noisy creatures ferrets, not good neighbours. Quite an easy goal really and well within your capabilities Very Happy
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    Post by Guest Tue Aug 21, 2012 8:21 pm

    But they do give me a buffer against the meerkats... Very Happy
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    Post by Guest Tue Aug 21, 2012 8:27 pm

    Meerkats? Where did they come from? Don't tell me they have bred with the ferrets. If so there's only one thing for it, you'll have to instigate widespread culling on public health grounds. French nobles are very keen on public health projects, they built aqueducts for clean water all over France. You could have hunting competitions with monthly prizes. How many meerkats are equivalent to a ferret?
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    Post by Guest Tue Aug 21, 2012 8:34 pm

    I think the going rate is 3 ferrets to one meerkat...unless its the ferret breeding season when its 2 to 1.

    Luckily they don't cross-breed but they do party a lot

    Warning-post may contain nuts
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    Post by Guest Tue Aug 21, 2012 8:52 pm

    Good news - I've found some "Tips on Trapping Ferrets":

    Apparently they are a serious problem in New Zealand where they are but one link in the disease transmission chain infecting stock. This is because they scavenge on dead carcasses and spread TB. According to this site: http://www.sp.co.nz/rural_news/articles/ferrets.html ferrets can be caught any time of the year with the highest kill rate being in February through to late May. However it is wise to follow a 12 month programme. Trapping sites should be adjusted over winter to take in any sheltered dry situations such as hay barns.

    Initially use bait such as meat or fish. However once a ferret is caught, the smell of that ferret seems to attract others to the trap. Brian Charlott has had the greatest success locally using fresh eel as bait. No mention of nuts, though.

    You still have to build and site your ferret traps, though the site has instructions which are easy to follow.

    Who am I to argue with a professional of 30 years experience in such matters?
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    Post by Stuart Bailey Tue Aug 21, 2012 9:15 pm

    Jason wrote:
    albreda wrote:England - a French Colony Smile It sounds almost quaint.

    I suppose if Mary hadn't invited the Williams over back in the 80's none of this would ever have happened. Rolling Eyes

    Strangely the whole situation in England did make me think the last time England was this much at the mercy of France was perhaps during the reign of King John, at the stage when the English nobles offered the crown to the Dauphin... Wink


    And then King John passed on and the whole of England rallied round Sir William Marshall........and the Frogs and the Scots found themselves in a very bad place and heading for the door.

    Oh I get it ........you think that if King Williams horse trips over a mole hole and Churchill gets assassinated by the Jacobites in revenge. England gets a proper ENGLISH Queen....menaced by Scots, Frogs and Irish........and suddenly everyone is offering quotes from Henry V and the French Army in England is thinking .........EXIT PLEASE
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    Post by Guest Tue Aug 21, 2012 9:23 pm

    Stuart Bailey wrote:
    Jason wrote:
    albreda wrote:England - a French Colony Smile It sounds almost quaint.

    I suppose if Mary hadn't invited the Williams over back in the 80's none of this would ever have happened. Rolling Eyes

    Strangely the whole situation in England did make me think the last time England was this much at the mercy of France was perhaps during the reign of King John, at the stage when the English nobles offered the crown to the Dauphin... Wink


    And then King John passed on and the whole of England rallied round Sir William Marshall........and the Frogs and the Scots found themselves in a very bad place and heading for the door.

    Oh I get it ........you think that if King Williams horse trips over a mole hole and Churchill gets assassinated by the Jacobites in revenge. England gets a proper ENGLISH Queen....menaced by Scots, Frogs and Irish........and suddenly everyone is offering quotes from Henry V and the French Army in England is thinking .........EXIT PLEASE

    Actually I was expecting him to die of too many eels (far more English) but that aside tongue
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    Post by Guest Tue Aug 21, 2012 9:24 pm

    The Real Louis of France wrote:
    Good news - I've found some "Tips on Trapping Ferrets":

    Apparently they are a serious problem in New Zealand where they are but one link in the disease transmission chain infecting stock. This is because they scavenge on dead carcasses and spread TB. According to this site: http://www.sp.co.nz/rural_news/articles/ferrets.html ferrets can be caught any time of the year with the highest kill rate being in February through to late May. However it is wise to follow a 12 month programme. Trapping sites should be adjusted over winter to take in any sheltered dry situations such as hay barns.

    Initially use bait such as meat or fish. However once a ferret is caught, the smell of that ferret seems to attract others to the trap. Brian Charlott has had the greatest success locally using fresh eel as bait. No mention of nuts, though.

    You still have to build and site your ferret traps, though the site has instructions which are easy to follow.

    Who am I to argue with a professional of 30 years experience in such matters?

    Hmmm, so I need to go and discover NZ first...
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    Post by Guest Wed Aug 22, 2012 11:56 am

    In all seriousness, lets look at the evolving situation.

    France has offered peace talks and Austria has accepted, with dates for a truce to begin and a location. Spain has not gone to war but seems willing to talk for now to resolve its issues, hopefully they will also declare they will take part in the talks. England is still confusing but I would like to think they will take part in the talks.
    The Dutch may be the only party poopers as they seem to be illiterate and happier island raiding...I think perhaps that is their "response" to French peace talk offers...so be it...

    Only time will tell if we can find a reasonable peace.
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    Post by Guest Wed Aug 22, 2012 12:36 pm

    Seems might odd that in the past Austria would not attend peace talks until France had withdrawn from England, yet you place no condition on Austria withdrawing from France in order to attend your peace talks?

    Meanwhile Austria continues to attack French towns, etc. Seems a very one-sided truce to me. If Spain is not at war with France then I'm sure you have a reason for including them, likewise England. However, the more countries which seek to involve themselves the harder it will be to get an agreement. There are, of course, legitimate reasons to talk to Spain and England about other matters, but not to link them with the wars against Austria and UDP. Presumably by England you mean both King James and RJC - not quite sure how you will get them both in the same room?

    The evolving situation as you put it, can be seen from a certain perspective as though Austria has France by the throat unwilling to let go and is punching you, whilst you shake your head and ask if she'd like to talk instead of kicking her where it hurts and being able to face her on equal terms. Surely until that happens Austria has no incentive to agree to any kind of peace, particularly given Leopold's past behaviour and his comments on this forum which show no sign of contrition for past action or desire to make amends? There is no doubt that Gandhi won in the end and the British left India, but I don't think there are many examples of such tactics working in the 1700s.
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    Post by Guest Wed Aug 22, 2012 1:11 pm

    Well, the truce won't actually start until September and we are in June so there is still plenty of time for things to happen.

    And please bear in mind that there is a lot I cannot say at the moment that would instantly answer your questions...and some of which would shock you...

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    Post by Guest Wed Aug 22, 2012 1:27 pm

    Fair enough.
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    Post by Regor Wed Aug 22, 2012 4:24 pm

    Jason Noooooooooooo! bom

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    Think of the number of dead if it does take years, I have at times wondered if the only solution is simply to fight until everyone and every nation is so exhausted, bankrupt, run out of weapons and men, that we get peace by default with a wasteland in large parts of England, France, Austria, Germany and the Baltic.

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    I thought that was the team plan. But you lot are too Europe centric and the Chinese hordes are slowly ever so slowly getting closer and closer!

    Anyhow I'm glad you're in the game and appear to have the same traits as the rest of us! Cant wait to get the next turn in and back Shocked
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    Post by Guest Wed Aug 22, 2012 6:20 pm

    You see Regor...I know the plan, that's why I'm pushing for peace...to give us time to prepare our defence against the Eternal Empire Wink

    I am starting to enjoy the game but think I will really get into it when I feel I am creating my own destiny...
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    Post by Regor Wed Aug 22, 2012 9:16 pm

    Jason, stay the course this is a very complex game that you madly joined at is most bizarre....TRKL had a very thorough and v long term plan. It was (I hope he's not reading this Suspect ) based on a historical perception and on treaty and legal structures. So whatever you do is likely to upset the very intricate web already created. Also he did put quite a few backs up!

    That said you are making a difference and keep going ... there are allies out there be bold and dont let the others have you over!

    Easy to say - hard to achieve but hey thats your own destiny. (Buy your own axe!)

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