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    Post by Jason2 Fri May 22, 2020 3:15 pm

    I've been re-reading the Anglo-Saxon Chronicles during my stay in Loch Doon (yes that was a pun) for a personal research project and notice how often the passing of comets is recorded in there. It's made me think about astronomy in the games.

    How many players include astronomy in their playing? Who has tried having observatories for example? I have a couple in G9 as Kwantung (for example). We're in the period of Edmond Halley, who employs him in-game? It most probably doesn't advance a position as such in regards technology (or does it?) but could being a patron of astronomy be a benefit for honour?
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    Post by Nexus06 Fri May 22, 2020 3:32 pm

    in G9 Russia has astronomy advancements and a working observer for the amusement of Count J.Bruce, located on the sakharov tower of the kremlin, above Count Bruce's office (as historically was). Tsar Peter, Count Bruce and Prince Menshikov have had some "scenes" for the journal located there.

    Count Bruce (of scottish heritage) was an interested star-observer, and acquired lens from Dutch and Saxon crafters. In game this has not jet been achieved due to the lack of interaction with such nations, but would love to.

    The patronization of such art has not, at the moment, provided honor score.
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    Post by Jason2 Fri May 22, 2020 3:44 pm

    I didn't realise you had Jacob in your service in G9 Smile He's an interesting chap. Shame to hear it's not given any honour benefits. Is there any indication it's helped out elsewhere?
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    Post by Nexus06 Fri May 22, 2020 4:42 pm

    Jacob Is a great support! Regarding observatory, the first round of research lasted a couple of years and provided observations for nautical almanac, wich i was unable to put in use being Russia. I veloce that' putting those research at disposal of some other academies could help navigation...
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    Post by Stuart Bailey Fri May 22, 2020 8:03 pm

    I built an Observatory in G2 and the Janissary scum and their idiot tame Grand Mufti said it was for the anti-Islamic practice of astrology and knocked it down.

    I counter charged them with Murder, theft, Criminal damage and being idiots for not knowing the difference between astronomy and astrology.

    Think that exchange had a negative effect on the honour my character had been picking up for being a noble and heroic ghazi fighting the ungodly Venetians etc. That or the good citizens of Constantinople did not like having to step over 14,000 dead Janissary on their way to the market.

    Since Richard never says why honour goes up or down I actually went with Joy as victory over the forces of reaction, stupidity and superstition being over-whelmed by the huge and crushing disappointment of failing to reduce the Grand Mufti by the height of his his head.

    Not saying the astronomy/astrology thing will be a problem for all Islamic players but its a GM's option if he thinks its your turn to get some grief. Half surprized the Russian Orthodox Church does not have the same issue, but perhaps that only happens if the Czar suddenly starts to say the earth goes round the Sun of some other new fangled theory like that.
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    Post by Jason2 Sat May 23, 2020 9:21 pm

    Stuart, I sometimes think that when it came to you and the Janissary, it didn't matter what you did, you annoyed them. I bet if you had died, they would still have been offended
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    Post by Stuart Bailey Sun May 24, 2020 12:18 am

    Jason2 wrote:Stuart, I sometimes think that when it came to you and the Janissary, it didn't matter what you did, you annoyed them.  I bet if you had died, they would still have been offended

    That is not true.......when my character Mustapha Kruppa was murdered with a knife in the back! They danced and celebrated in the Streets of Cairo!!

    Richard was kind enough to allow time for his sons to get to the dieing Mustapha bedside and for them to here his last statement before he passed away reading the Holy Koran. 20,000 riders then escorted his body home through the sorrowing towns and villages of Rumelia to a simple Sufi Shrine high in the Mountains of Albania. Iskander Kruppa and his brothers then swore a mighty oath of Albanian style blood vengence on the tomb of their murdered father against all of his fathers foes and killers. It was a really touching event, which did a lot to repair the 50% loss in honour score due to loss of a character.

    Month after that 50,000 Rumelian Cavalry hit Venice hard with fire and sword. Never did actually find out 100% who gave the order to murder my first character in Glory du Roi but had a nice time working down list of possible suspect's. coffin

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    Post by Stuart Bailey Sun May 24, 2020 12:42 am

    More on the original topic G7 Spain has used two Observatory......one in South America and another in the northern part of the Globe to draw up lunar tables to help navigation at sea.

    No charges of messing with the dark arts yet but they did moan that the first set of lunar tables were not very good!

    At this point I would like to claim that due to improvements in Spanish shipping and navigation a Spanish Naval force with troop convoy made it all the way to Manila from Cadiz with no sickness levels this month. Sadly this would not be true since in last month it was bucketing it down in the Far East and Navy got to Manila SL#1 and troops were SL#2.

    Still can not moan too much as I have suffered much worse using charatered Russian merchant shipping just to get across the North Sea from London to Flander. Must have been the really dodgy Vodka the Russian Merchant Marine give to paying passengers!
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    Post by Jason2 Sun May 24, 2020 5:10 am

    I still think SL1 and 2 is not bad for Cadiz-Manila...

    With the lunar tables, have you produce a second set and if so were they better received
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    Post by Stuart Bailey Sun May 24, 2020 10:23 am

    Jason2 wrote:I still think SL1 and 2 is not bad for Cadiz-Manila...

    With the lunar tables, have you produce a second set and if so were they better received

    2nd version is under-way when full year of readings are complete.

    Spain has also developed improved aides to Navigation and has printed loads of really nice chart's of the West Coast of the America, South China Sea etc in efforts to avoid any more ships hitting reefs and drowning its Priests or sinking Silver Bullion under the waves.

    But invention of the Chroneograpgh comes 3rd on the list of wanted developments after a cure for small box and improved missionary techniques for Spain in G7 Spain. Sort of worth weight in silver to the inventor while the cure for small pox comes under a very small list of things Spain would be willing to pay £40m for.

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