G7 - France vs. England

I blame the lack of mutleys on Lord Fong's take away empire and all these damn sausage shops

Well, it appears from this month's newspaper that Norfolk is, in fact, a PC.

My guess, at the moment, is that RKL is exactly right and Marlborough has been given a "do over".

To say that I find that unfair would be an understatement.

Don´t think it is a do over. Got a letter this turn from Norfolk and it look different as the letters from Marlborough.

Well, in either case, I paid for and took the jacobite cause, and now all the sudden some new player gets inserted? Perhaps he's just changed his typeface, who knows?

I don't see how that can be fair to my position to do that.

I would consider the analogy of being spain before the succession crisis, arranging the succession, then getting told the new king you arranged is a player position, so you don't get to play him!

And the only way you could contest it is to completely break character and attack your own position!

Still waiting for my turn by post, but I have sympathy for you Deacon as to use a saying it looks like someone has "shot your fox". But if it is the same player - he started out as being pro Jacobite, then switched to being pro Orangist and has just switched back again for political convenience. If that is the case then you still have a justified conflict as instead of it being a Jacobite/Orangist conflict you have a true Jacobite/political conveniance Jacobite war, in which you are still at war with the party which killed King James. If you look at earlier comments in this thread there was reference to a Khansas city shuffle or something similar. It just shuffled again, thats all. So its still game on for you

If we have now got a player run Stuart King (The True Jacobite party) and a London Government of Ex Whigs who are now claiming to be loyal Jacobites it looks like the next struggle in England is going to be between the King and his "loyal" Parliament!

Of course that assumes that William of Orange's Dutch advisors and rank and file Protestants are happy with the great Whig Nobles playing fast and loose with the party beliefs, Manifesto etc etc and dont kick off.

Anyone willing to offer odds on who stabs who first? I know if I was running King James the Younger I would be putting in some very detailed orders about who can and who can not carry weapons near the Monarch.

It is possiable to have your main character killed off & a successor take his place. I did it when I first started, managed to muck everything up so was lucky enough to start again.

Feel sympathy for you Deacon, seems things are stacking up first France abandons you, now so called allies in England seem to be on the wobble. Still at least you control the whiskey industry. There is always a silver lining if you know where to look.

Wow, poor England... you couldn't make this up. Anyone want to let on what their honour score is? Will anyones troops follow orders or is it all downhill to mob rule? Problem is that when France gets Austria to quit lopping bits off she will still be stronger than England.

If that holds water why would any English faction want to pick a fight with Spain?

I'm confused! And I thought we were all being pretty crafty - looks like we should get busy with the plotting .....

For all those interested ex players and watchers of the crazy, crazy world of G7 here are the highlights of July 1706.

1) And in one bound our hero is back !!!!! Yes the big bad Louis has risen from his sick bed to defy the Austrian Invaders and make cutting remarks about the shocking lack of fashion and style in the Emperors Army.

The only problem is that Big Lou is now trapped in a small town with old walls and no fortess cannon with Austrian Mortar batteries about to open fire! It seems to me that our hero needs to cut his way out quickly or he is Toast. Only problem is that the those nasty grubby oiks from the wrong side of the Rhine have have fifty odd batteries of cannon and thousands of muskets waiting for either a break out or a rescue attempt.

2) Peace talks between France & Austria are now set to happen.......in Yorktown of all the odd forsaken spots to pick why Yorktown? General belief is that the Austrians are betting that after a couple of Weeks of American cooking and drinking root beer the French will agree to anything just to get out of town. The fact that if they dont come to an agreement and Big Lou could get a blown to bits may also cramp French diplomacy......or perhaps not if the team was sent by Little Lou.

3) The Doge of Venice seems to be turning into a fine judge of Bavarian character

4) Russians have finally come up with a reason why one Swedish Bluecoat is worth about 5 Russian Guards or 10 Cossacks............their muskets are crap. Perhaps someone should explain that the Russian Musket is not designed to fire.....its designed to hit people over the head with!

5) The games 2nd greatest hero Sir Christopher Myngs is out of the Tower.......the Question now is who will call Norfolk out first John Henry for Norfolk betraying the Protestant cause or Sir Christopher for slander and his recent arrest?

6) Oddly following Charles Von Habsburg getting upset about his Dublin Trade Mission getting burnt down and ordering an attack on those he believed responsible......The French who's privateers were sunk ignored the attack, The King of Ireland and the Irish Government also ignored the violation of their territory. But Norfolk who holds no position in the Government of Ireland decided to use the event as reason to seize 30 Spanish Merchant Ships.

General view amongst those spiffing chaps over at HWIC House is that picking fights with your best customer is stupid even if he is a nasty grubby oik and ferret fancier from the wrong side of the Rhine. Even more risky when the jolly German in question has a suspect temper and an an Army & Navy with a clear chain of command.

7) Still not much news from the Ottoman Empire......the Bey of Moldovia is decorating again and trying to lead the Bey of Egypt astray with his tobacco products.

The Indians are revolting

Those muskets were purchased from the "Vasa Gun Company of Stockholm". I was assured they were the best muskets money could buy.

LoL you should have gone for the Mara musket.............

Stuart Bailey wrote:
For all those interested ex players and watchers of the crazy, crazy world of G7 here are the highlights of July 1706.

Have you been intercepting the mail again?

errr, sorry to be boring but can anyone explain the following? What is the point of a ceasefire starting I guess in September if Austria kills the recovered King Louis in the previous month? Does Europe need another dead Catholic Noble martyr...... the last one seems to have led to much of the current chaos in England.

And England poor England what can be done - I suppose the simplest solution would be for France to pull all her troops out, the Scots to prevaricate, Spain to hold fire and let William and James hammer it out...

But simple is not what we are going to get is it guys?

Regor wrote:errr, sorry to be boring but can anyone explain the following? What is the point of a ceasefire starting I guess in September if Austria kills the recovered King Louis in the previous month? Does Europe need another dead Catholic Noble martyr...... the last one seems to have led to much of the current chaos in England.

And England poor England what can be done - I suppose the simplest solution would be for France to pull all her troops out, the Scots to prevaricate, Spain to hold fire and let William and James hammer it out...

But simple is not what we are going to get is it guys?

Simple, now where is the fun in that?

Does anyone else think we need a new thread title now England & France have made peace? I am thinking:

1) France V Austria - The Ferrets strike back

2) Nightmare's, Headache's and Backstabbing - G7 English Political Doing's 1700 -1706

3) England V Spain - Is this the most crazy reason to start a War ever?

Now personally I can think of loads of reasons to start a war with Spain such as obtaining colonies, stopping them annexing Portugal, obtaining trade rights or even because they are a bunch of papists. In G2 Spain & England had a cracking War because the Earl of Essex and determined to protect English Port supplies and stop Philip of Spain taking over large chunks of the World he did not already own.

But starting a war as England because the Spanish blew a bunch of French Pirates out of the water and their over shots hit a few Dubliners !!!!!?????? Hell Dublin is not even part of the English Crown since in 1706 the Irish & English crowns are seperate.

Perhaps Norfolk like Essex has decided that the Don's dont seem to on message about Spain being a "loser" position and its up to heroic English types to restore normality?

Alternatively, perhaps the shape of English since 1700 can now be seen - Start a fight with the toughest foe you can find (France) and then work down list (Spain? UDP?) until you find an opponent you can defeat.

How about "1706-the year China Conquers Europe"

I am still convinced there is a vast Junk Fleet on its way...

Jason, Stuart - you guys!

China? surely not?

England with all its factions together could not be more than "an ant crawling up the hind leg of an elephant with rape on it's mind" after the mess the previous administrations, factions and the French have left it in at present. I really think that annoying Spain now is seriously misguided.

I know William might like to have the Dons against him for religious reasons but the Jacobites annoying the Spanish. Well I just don't get it....

Historical play

Anyhow how about "G7 - Bedlam welcomes you" I seem to fit in quite well

Regor wrote:Anyhow how about "G7 - Bedlam welcomes you" I seem to fit in quite well

Or...."MADNESS? THIS IS G7"

Maybe get Princess Anne to kiss all the claimants to the Throne of England.

Which ever one then turns into a "Frog" gets to marry her & claim the throne.

Can't understand why no one has thought of it before.

Hear she prefers Great Danes.....personally I find they slobber too much!....hey ho.

Hang on Venetians good judge of Bavarian Character!!... steady Mr Bailey steady!
The Venetians for some reason have taken umbrage that they cannot hang a charge on bavarian ambassador. Shame as he was innocent and no offence was proven as Sgnr Vivaldi returned to testify to that fact. Case closed. No use whinging about it now and being petulant or the Doge will stamp his feet and set his palace on akilter and sink slowly into the lagoons mud! fitting justice for trumping up false charges!!!

Re Great Danes, Annes Dane is called george...correct me if Im wrong.

Oh, dear oh dear the madness spreads.

Looks like we need to declare an exclusion zone to contain it

I really hope the madness does not spread from England to the Nodic conflict via Denmark.

Before the Czar can shout "Moscow is the third Rome and Im a tea pot" It could spread via his Moldavian in laws into the Ottoman Empire and were will we be?