Question regarding game 2

Thanks for the explanation about Natural disasters & EH, may explain things.

On the Maps, I have printed out the one avaliable from this site, it shows Baden on the West of the Rhine, Strassburg is also shown as being in Baden, It could well be that there are various differing maps in circulation, depending on which one you have depends on your world outlook.

At the start of G2 Mecklenburg & Brunswick were put together as one position, simply for playability, so not sure how historical ties are left, which comes first Game history or book history?

J Flower wrote:Thanks for the explanation about Natural disasters & EH, may explain things.

On the Maps, I have printed out the one avaliable from this site, it shows Baden on the West of the Rhine, Strassburg is also shown as being in Baden, It could well be that there are various differing maps in circulation, depending on which one you have depends on your world outlook.

At the start of G2 Mecklenburg & Brunswick were put together as one position, simply for playability, so not sure how historical ties are left, which comes first Game history or book history?

Opps, my bad. I was looking at the German map in the Atlas , on that Strassburg isn't part of Baden but French (and it has two Badens...Baden-Baden and Baden-Durlach); my map for G2 only has 1 Baden and it does include Strassburg, and there is no reference to Strassburg being French.

Also, my G2 start-up map says Lauenburg holds Lubeck as well as Hamburg.

My brain now hurts

Some bad news for the Hungarians this turn with there Bank collapsing, just as well I have plenty of money for me to use, my advisors see too happy perhaps they want me dead.

It's an interesting turn to say the least...think I need to re-read the paper before commenting further...been a long day and tired so must have misread the scale of the French naval successes...

One has the admire the French to be honest. Sailing into Havana to take 16 Spanish and 52 Prussian merchants; attacking Kingston, Jamaica, taking 116 merchants and doing a lot of damage to the RN there...as well as a less successful raid on shipping at Dover...

The Prussian yacht club has paid its regards to Toulon and Prussian hussars are holidaying in northern France. Strassburg seems to be in for a hard time now the Kaiser's army has turned up...

G2 is really livening up!

Next turn may not be as much fun... The French forces at Kingston are cut off by a major British Fleet. The whole lot has been bagged in the harbor.

That's true! I did find the report of the crew mix in the French fleet interesting, just about anyone but French!

Agreed... I found those facts rather interesting as well. The information gleaned from the captured merchant ships is rather interesting as well.

I did wonder, for a few seconds, if it really was a 'French' fleet and not some sort of uber-Pirate fleet...but that would be impossible...surely...

I thought the same thing to for a bit.... However, a pirate collecting such a force would be impossible I do believe. Not to worry... The fleet has them bottled and surrender or splentering is the only option.

Still... Will be curious to see what is left and what can be gained for the questioning.

To quote the rule book (v7), EH 1 is the only place where you need fear disasters:

"When the EH is at ‘1’, High Society might not
like it but won’t usually react violently. However,
riots by commoners can be expected, as
can other acts by them to show their disgruntlement.
This can include revolts, but may also
be a trigger for a natural disaster - obviously
such a link cannot be justified except as a
game mechanism - but it is enough to say that
poor EH can seriously damage your wealth
and circumstances and is best avoided! It is
however possible to have a thoroughly enjoyable
game with an EH score bumping along at
‘1’, but expect a great many challenges to come
your way - which can be fun in themselves"

I think France need not merely fear disasters but make them up a guest room! All power to their elbow and they have liven up the game (which was part of their planning) and yes they have had some early naval successes but I fear they are in for a hammering soon.

Perhaps France's one hope is that his enemies are keen to find peace, he may find he survives simply because those he are at war with seem determined to help France find a way out of the war without too much loss of face (at least that's my reading of it)

this month has certainly made for interesting reading. It can't be said that the French navy isn't showing flair and aggression. I wonder if their army will do likewise. It's quite nice watching things from the sidelines

Jason wrote:I think France need not merely fear disasters but make them up a guest room! All power to their elbow and they have liven up the game (which was part of their planning) and yes they have had some early naval successes but I fear they are in for a hammering soon.

Perhaps France's one hope is that his enemies are keen to find peace, he may find he survives simply because those he are at war with seem determined to help France find a way out of the war without too much loss of face (at least that's my reading of it)

If the above is true.....Lucky for the French that their attempted attack on the Sultan's Fleet a) missed and b) He was too busy killing Mamlukes & Jannissary types to respond in his usual manner.

It seems the innocent bystanders in Havana, have once again cause to fear the French. Will it bring Spain back into the war. Will the outrage at the violation of netrality harm the French, Attacking a fellow Catholic can't be a good idea. Or maybe he is looking to collect enemies, so far he has an Anglian, Muslim, Lutherean, Orthodox, so I suppose to complete the set he needs a Catholic.

we can but hope.

So, as even more of the population of France decides to become German, the question has to be...what is going on the West Indies? the French claim they aren't behind the attacks on Havana and Kingston...are the French confused, lying or telling the truth...if the latter do we really have giant pirate fleets on the loose or are French units sailing without orders...

Maybe the reason many of the French Ships near Havanna have non French crews is because so many French men have sought a better life in Bavaria.

I beleive it was the offer of a lifetimes supply of Sauerkraut & sausages that tipped the balance in favour of the Bavarians.

A life times supply of sauerkraut seems a good incentive to go anywhere but the place offering it

Now, any bets on how long before the population of Paris ups and moves?

It may not just be the Sauerkraut, I thiunk the Sausages that get cooked in the pot with it probably were the deciding factor. Especially as they are made from the meat of domesticated animals, with the added bonus that said animal was not formally known as "Dobbin or Red Rum."


Has someone secretly founded the United Nations in G2 without anyone else knowing, the fleet that hit Havana certainly seemed to have the makeup of such an organisation. If it isn't the UN then a pirate position with 90+ ships must be a new one for LGDR, My goodness its a bigger navy than the Prussian Yacht Club, admitted not hard to acheive as two men in a rowing boat are more dangerous. But still seriously. If it is a pirate then the timing is perfect as the Maritime powers are too busy knocking seven bells out of each other to stop him.

Anyone throw some light on the Great Baltic war, seems Russia is at war( possiably ) with Sweden, Sweden isn't sure it is at war with Russia or not. Russias blockading fleet is itself blockaded, by a (possiably ) hostile Swedish fleet.

In the meantime there is a great party wiht most of the great & good from Europe ready to attend the coronation of the new Tsar.

Sweden is allied to France, so if Russia is at war with Sweden, who is also at war with England & Prussia is France then also at war with Russia.

Its almost as twisty turny as the old G7 thread.

Read through the Paper again,Seems I missed something first time around.

In hte UDP Henri der Bergkamp seems to be back in power, van der Heim isn't mentioned. Plus King William is doing a tour of Flanders & improving cities there.

So is there now a combined low countries, that came in under the Radar,& has good King Willy taken over the riens of government ousting der Heim & returning our old favorite diplomatic genius Bergkamp to power?

The Hungarian paddle boat crew is ready for action and Admiral Johannes Silver is ready...

Well Jason...the more the merrier

The Prussian Yacht Club, the Paddle Boat crew, the Hanoverian canoe club...maybe we should have a regatta

Ha ha ha ha, the Protestant rowing club

Well, it is the boat race this Sunday...