Game 10

Jason wrote:Propaganda? How dare you!  We Scots deal only in the Truth!








Not our fault if it's not your truth

Is that King James Scots, King Williams Scots or the English Hirelings & Nocromanatic Scots of Mary II who deal only in the truth?

No Jacobites round here mate...no, none at all...honest

Hmm, a Smelling Out of those who practice witchcraft may be needed at some point in Rozwi.
At present we've no such witch doctor type, only a religious spirit medium and possibly, it could be argued, they're not the same thing.
Also, should I create the Rozwi National Health Service, I'll need a witch doctor so I can train up doctors to improve medicine efficiency in Rozwi. Probably more placebo cures, in most cases, but some herbal remedies are better than nothing.

Rozwi_Game10 wrote:Hmm, a Smelling Out of those who practice witchcraft may be needed at some point in Rozwi.
At present we've no such witch doctor type, only a religious spirit medium and possibly, it could be argued, they're not the same thing.
Also, should I create the Rozwi National Health Service, I'll need a witch doctor so I can train up doctors to improve medicine efficiency in Rozwi. Probably more placebo cures, in most cases, but some herbal remedies are better than nothing.

Think you should add a Witch Doctor (year in theological college and then year in medical college?) to each Army Unit to improve morale, throw curses at foes and treat wounded. Plus conduct sacrifices to the "Spirits".

Plus you need some specialist Cow Witches to protect and heal your herds.

Oddly there is some evidence that the curses of African Witch Doctors do actually work on believers and otherwise healthy people have actually dropped dead (from fright?).

A religious teaching institute is part of my plans, but preparing for / getting all the invasions and fighting out of the way is taking up all my turn time at the moment. Once cash is available to look after upkeep costs, I'm going to take a look at what institutes can be translated into a Tribal African equivalent.

From research I've so far managed, farmers could look after crops and herds up to a point. But then the interfering witch doctors would stick their noses in, state that only magical charms bought from them would guarantee success, and any farmer who attempted to go it alone, contrary to the witch doctors advice, would soon find themselves condemned as using witchcraft for their success and subsequently executed.

I suppose witchcraft is a necessary evil for a position like Rozwi, as there are both uses and hindrances. Up to now I've steered clear, as I can't be bothered with a distraction from a npc complaining about angry spirits etc. But I suppose that other positions have to contend with their religious practitioners, or Rome, so Rozwi will have to conform at some point.

I'm a father! (in-game). Don't reckon much to the child's 'listed' name, however: "???"

Wife No.1 is well. Wife No.2 I can't get pregnant for love nor money! (Might have to trade her in as a part-exchange )

- Word to the wise on "#SL": They shoot up faster than a very fast thing in Southern Africa, and getting worse now out of the Campaigning Season!

Sounds like a fairly successful turn for you then

Reasonably successful in God's Chosen Land (Scotland, obviously), no massive leaps forward but at least nothing has gone wrong either!

And no babies either, Jason! (or ?)

Not so far, actually not sure if I'm married in-game or not...

Seems as though the rebels desire not to fight at York. We shall see what the month holds.

revvaughan wrote:Seems as though the rebels desire not to fight at York.  We shall see what the month holds.  

Probably the French investigating who stole their military pay rolls!

Not that I'm saying England had any hand in the matter, obviously.

It could have been France's neighbour's to the North, South-West, South-East, East, bit further to the East... Quite the list of possible interested parties, actually. Japanese. North-West African Tribals. Naughty French Corsairs. An inside job, to sow a conspiracy. Various In-Laws of Louis's.

- In other news; I wonder what the dead king of Spain now smells like? Hope its not an open coffin!

Jason wrote:Not so far, actually not sure if I'm married in-game or not...

How can you not know??

Tom Blakeney wrote:

Jason wrote:Not so far, actually not sure if I'm married in-game or not...

How can you not know??  

My character profile doesn't mention a wife but doesn't safe I am unmarried. I know my character was married twice in real life but I am not sure when his wives died. I have a couple of books on Scottish political history that mention my character but none talk about his private life

Wikipedia?

Not much use. It talks of my character's real life heir, who was his son by a second wife, but no mention of dates.

Got a friend at National Archives and another at National Records of Scotland seeing if they can locate the info.

I'm amused that the Moghul has now attempted to claim California off the Spanish. Add to that the politicking in Madrid and the issues in Milan. The Spanish succession seems to be more challenging in this game than in most...

Deacon wrote:
I'm amused that the Moghul has now attempted to claim California off the Spanish. Add to that the politicking in Madrid and the issues in Milan. The Spanish succession seems to be more challenging in this game than in most...

In the year 1700. California was officially not owned or claimed by anyone. Nobody owns it. First come, first served.?

jamesbond007 wrote:

Deacon wrote:
I'm amused that the Moghul has now attempted to claim California off the Spanish. Add to that the politicking in Madrid and the issues in Milan. The Spanish succession seems to be more challenging in this game than in most...

In the year 1700. California was officially not owned or claimed by anyone. Nobody owns it. First come, first served.?

I think the Spanish might disagree. They sent several explorers into the area in the 1500s and historically had missions in baja before 1700. But you get to keep what you can protect by force of arms, so I guess we'll see.

Deacon wrote:

jamesbond007 wrote:

Deacon wrote:
I'm amused that the Moghul has now attempted to claim California off the Spanish. Add to that the politicking in Madrid and the issues in Milan. The Spanish succession seems to be more challenging in this game than in most...

In the year 1700. California was officially not owned or claimed by anyone. Nobody owns it. First come, first served.?

I think the Spanish might disagree. They sent several explorers into the area in the 1500s and historically had missions in baja before 1700. But you get to keep what you can protect by force of arms, so I guess we'll see.

Game wise California is free in 1700. But you are right it may come down to war. But why? Spain already has so much gold that California is irrelevant to it. Looks to me that Spain needs to keep its military for maters closer to home. At this stage Moghul India cannot beat Spain militarily. Lively start to the game though and I think more is to come.

"You have so much (insert item), you don't mind if I take some do you?" hasn't ever been an effective argument historically.

The danger with overextending to California is that you can invest in a goldmine that somebody else can just take.

Deacon wrote:
"You have so much (insert item), you don't mind if I take some do you?" hasn't ever been an effective argument historically.

The danger with overextending to California is that you can invest in a goldmine that somebody else can just take.

Cannot see the Moghul holding onto it. A lot depends on the Moghul position. He may just be trying it on or he may throw huge resources at it. If he throws huge resources into it then he will hold it. Cannot see him wanting to throw so much at though.

I'm a bit curious about the Moghul player's strategy. He's surrounded by territory he can take that is full of people and profit, but seems bent on the colonial path.

Maybe he is hedging his bets this early on.

Must admit, am finding the Moghul's colonial explorations interesting. Also, based on my (limited) in-game experience of what Indian players have told me of their early naval capacities, slightly surprised they successfully reached the Americas. My only disappointment is they have named their new place "San Francisco", would like to have seen a more "Indian" name. So will we see an Moghul Indian settlement there? And will these new Indians co-operate with the locals or abuse them?

Nearer home the Great Moghul seems to be doing quite a good job at winning over the local princes. I wonder who is playing the position.

The fact that the Moghuls have pushed into the Spanish zone of influence in the America's is like the Duke of Savoy claiming the Duchy of Milan another side effect of the vacum at the top of the G10 Spanish Monarchy.

If the Spanish Govt had done things old school and just picked its new King (any King) and crowned him as soon as the Carlos II passed on. And nailed the Duke of Savoy to the burning gates of his own Palace I doubt that the Islamic Hordes would have invaded the America's!!!!

Currently the G10 Spanish Govt seem to be seeking 100% legal answer to the Spanish Succession via its Minister of Justice (Agema?).

Think this is missing some important facts:

1) Carlos II was not just King of Spain he was also Duke of Milan, Duke of Flanders & King of Naples as well. The legal inheritence position in all of these states differ. Indeed the position of the various Spanish positions like Castille, Aragon, Navarre may also differ.

2) If you effectively leave questions like this to a version of "Court Agama" you are going to end up with something like the Treaty of Warsaw in G7 generally viewed as a dogs dinner of a treaty and a 3 year truce.

Hopefully, the fact that the Spanish America's are being invaded by Islamic forces will finally get Carlos II buried (his body must be starting to spell really badly) and a Monarch crowned for Castile at the very least. Plus get a half decent Crusade surmon out of Cardinal Portocarrero.