Game 10

Many thanks for a brilliant synopsis of what is starting to get a bit confusing !

Like a circle within a spiral, a wheel within a wheel...who knows what goes on in the minds of the great leaders in game 10, including my own...or is it a case of 'well, it looked a good idea on paper...' my drawing board has never had so many re-starts!

All I know is I've sent grain to the Rozwi and it should arrive just in time for the harvest of 1705!

A good war will shake it all out!

I hope your grain arrives much quicker than that. If it does not get there by June 1702 it will make a very large smell and your transporters will have tons of rubbish on their hands.

Time stands still when travelling...and anyway it's downhill from where I am, so must travel faster!

Rosales-Uber-Alles wrote:All I know is I've sent grain to the Rozwi and it should arrive just in time for the harvest of 1705!

jamesbond007 wrote:I hope your grain arrives much quicker than that. If it does not get there by June 1702 it will make a very large smell and your transporters will have tons of rubbish on their hands.

Ghosts ships after the crews have abandoned them! The shipping list reports will feature sightings of them periodically, and their legend will grow in the newspaper

Grain doesn't go bad on ships, but does in caravans.

Ask me how I know

Tell us how oh Emperor Deacon, tells us please!!

You can have silos on ships I guess. But what happens when you unload the ships and the grain has to travel inland.?

jamesbond007 wrote:You can have silos on ships I guess. But what happens when you unload the ships and the grain has to travel inland.?

No idea. But storing grain on ship is more or less the equivalent of a silo. No expiration date. I've kept some on ships for years.

My attempt to send a caravan of seed, however, was a dismal failure...

It was only money, and a lot of time, and the hair that I pulled out in annoyance that was wasted I suppose. It could have been worse. I'm not sure how, but I'm sure Richard would have some ideas!

The turn summary is always a good read and useful to see another player's view of events and any hidden meaning you may have missed. The HRE has many irons in the fire when it comes to the Spanish succession; all based on negotiation

I had a great time in Italy and enjoyed my visit to Venice and the Doge's palace. When the turn arrived I spent a few hours in the evening with a beer reading and planning lol

Basileus wrote:Many thanks for a brilliant synopsis of what is starting to get a bit confusing !

Hold it...........since when has Basileus been a non player in G10?

If Basileus is not setting French Policy who is?????

Is French Foeign Policy now being set by the Italian lobby? Like in the Days of Catherine de Medici or Cardinal Mazarin? Has France gone back to the 1650's??

Stuart Bailey wrote:

Basileus wrote:Many thanks for a brilliant synopsis of what is starting to get a bit confusing !

Hold it...........since when has Basileus been a non player in G10? :suspect:

If Basileus is not setting French Policy who is?????

Is French Foeign Policy now being set by the Italian lobby?  Like in the Days of Catherine de Medici or Cardinal Mazarin?  Has France gone back to the 1650's??

Who says he isn't playing? He's just confused. That's pretty much the standard mental state for Glory players, so I'm not sure it implies anything.

I'm just glad Stuart has finally cottoned on that the Scots are simply saying to the Corsairs "stay out of our waters", clearly he has given up drinking that orrible French wine stuff (effects your brain don't you know) and is now drinking good Scotch, which always brings clarity

Wish Richard the best on his holiday, but I hate the wait time for the next turn

Sent mine off today, now have to sit around twiddling my thumbs and doing stupid things like watching a solar eclipse when I could be playing Glory!

Just when we were all getting happy about improved turn times, Richard then has the audacity to go on holiday......

Of course the cynical may say the improved turn times just prior to a holiday may have been a way to pay the deposit on said holiday.

We can only hope Richard has a wonderous time, comes back fit well & refreshed all ready to process our turns at break neck speed.........( please)

Jason wrote:I'm just glad Stuart has finally cottoned on that the Scots are simply saying to the Corsairs "stay out of our waters", clearly he has given up drinking that orrible French wine stuff (effects your brain don't you know) and is now drinking good Scotch, which always brings clarity

Would like to point that that in G7 the preformance of parts of the English Royal Navy which were issued with Wine was vastly better than the parts issued with Rum. OK it was vintage Spanish/Italian wines & sherries but I am sure French wine & brandy would have lead to the same improvement in preformance.

Perhaps someone should get a Naval Academy to test best drinks rations for Sailors (Early development of India Pale Ale?) to see which one is the best out of Scotch, Rum, English Beer, Dutch Gin, French Wine & Brandy, Spanish Maderia which did have a good repuation for travelling well, Port etc.

And if their is any truth in the common maritime belief (in Glori) that making sailors drink Vodka has same effect on their morale as having a albatross shooting contest off the sturn of a ship about to sail round cape horn.

Stuart Bailey wrote:

Jason wrote:I'm just glad Stuart has finally cottoned on that the Scots are simply saying to the Corsairs "stay out of our waters", clearly he has given up drinking that orrible French wine stuff (effects your brain don't you know) and is now drinking good Scotch, which always brings clarity

Would like to point that that in G7 the preformance of parts of the English Royal Navy which were issued with Wine was vastly better than the parts issued with Rum.  OK it was vintage Spanish/Italian wines & sherries but I am sure French wine & brandy would have lead to the same improvement in preformance.

Perhaps someone should get a Naval Academy to test best drinks rations for Sailors (Early development of India Pale Ale?)  to see which one is the best out of Scotch, Rum, English Beer, Dutch Gin, French Wine & Brandy, Spanish Maderia which did have a good repuation for travelling well, Port etc.

And if their is any truth in the common maritime belief (in Glori) that making sailors drink Vodka has same effect on their morale as having a  albatross shooting contest off the sturn of a ship about to sail round cape horn.

In all seriousness, one thing I do look into with European positions is alcohol production and setting up academies to improve its production, develop new methods, etc. It does seem to pay off quite quickly.

For myself, always found French wine too mellow and puts me to sleep whereas a Spanish Red fills me with vigour.

Interesting to read the goings on in Madrid,I believe we may have an active Spain ......

If the new player in Spain is on the forum( I can understand if they want to stay anonymous) then I would like to take the chance here to welcome them to Game 10.
you have taken up an extremely challenging position with a lot of hard decisions to make in the initial few turns.

I wish you the best of luck & hope that the initial hurdles can be overcome & that you can guide your position through the stormy period it is now enduring, so that you can eventually enjoy the full spectrum of the game without having to constantly worry about, well just about everything.

Why do you think Spain wasn't in play? Typically the big key positions are in demand so are usually played.

Deacon wrote:
Why do you think Spain wasn't in play? Typically the big key positions are in demand so are usually played.  

I think readers of the Mercurius Politicus may have started to wonder if players had changed when "Good King Rodrigo" who has been oddly quite of late suddenly issued orders to his own mother forgetting she had passed away a few months ago.

The fact that King Rodrigo also wondered if he was the Legitimate King also seemed like a New Player looking at a starting position.......asking Rodrigo? I though my characters name was Philip?

Personally I prefer my own theory that Rodrigo who may be a questionable birth son of Carlos II & the Spanish Royal Council have been under the evil influence of the Warlock-Cardinal Portocarrero and something has happened to unpset the "Evil Eye" of the Cardinal allowing the Royal Council to break free.......to cries of What has been happening? What have we done? (High Treason, Usurped the Throne and upset most of the Catholic Church and the two most powerful Dynasties in Europe to be exact).

The Question now is will Portocarrero get back to Spain and restore his control over Rodrigo and the Royal Council? Or will the Council start meeting in the Royal Chapel with relic's of Saints round their necks until a nice Auto-de-fee can be arranged along with a Royal Pardon form a legitimate heir....Since the Council clearly can not be blamed for actions taken under influence of Witchcraft.

Ok its a bit Gothic and extreme for the taste of many players but you have to admitt its a bit more style than just coming out with a flat statement of Abdication or having a Military Coup in Madrid and throwing your own character from the Palace Roof. Both of which will still leave all your Royal Council with the blemish of Traitor against their reputation.

Actually the interesting bit in G10 aside from Moghul campaigns is that the dithering, followed by odd options and then total absence of policy in Madrid has resulted in the formation of actual Hapsburg & Bourbon factions in the Spanish Empire which are at least semi independent of Paris & Vienna and at least a possibity of a proper War of the Spanish succession......started not by a Louis XIV or the Emperor set on Word domination but general muddle, confusion and personal ambition at lower level.

You can almost hear the cries of "Nooooo.......not the Geonan Flagsghip" & the "Doge has done what????" echoing round the Courts of the Major Powers. Naturally as a Noble French Corsair my Character thinks its great:bounce: and can not wait for the to read the next thrilling account from Italy.

Think what gives G10 its own feel is that many major Powers like Russia, The Ottomans and perhaps Spain for a time were missing while many more minor Powers esp those with links to the major French & Austrian Courts are in play. This general gathering of would be toadies, swordsmen, courtiers & Italian Nobles on the make round the Glorious Sun King and his Grandson and also round the Court of Vienna is one of one of the things wihich gives G10 a somewhat unique vibe as well as a high degree of confusion.

Meanwhile in any attempt to show how it should be done Jason Flower as Good King William of England & Scotland, Stadtholder of the UDP has finally found a "team" not populated by NPC's who hate his Character and are happy to talk to him about Roads, Dredgers, Bye-laws concerning the use of Press Gangs.........clearly G10 is a very odd game. But I think it could do with a Jacobite, a Ottoman, and probably some more Indians to spice things up.

I intend to agree with Stuart (!!!), it does seem we have an active Spain again...if you're out there, welcome onboard!

I should stress England and Scotland were doing a good job of team working before Good King Jason...I mean William ...became active...

Well, it will be interesting to see if Spain changes course. There certainly is a fair bit of pressure on them to do so.

I fear that if Spain has a new player then they will be swamped under by the great number of choices & major decisions they have to make in the initial few turns. Just hope that they are able to hang in their in what must be a daunting position initially. Especially as Spain is one of the Major positions & the game is poorer for the absence of it as an active position.

As for good King Williams team, he has been luck enough to be able to join a team that was already doing extremely well for itself, but Stuart your right, it is nice to be in a semi, non-official team that contains people who actually go to all the trouble of replying to your letters.

If there is a new player, all they have to do is make clear that they are, and they'll get the space they need from other players.

Deacon wrote:
If there is a new player, all they have to do is make clear that they are, and they'll get the space they need from other players.

Would like to point out that the French, Austrian & Venetian Propaganda Units have Print Deadlines to meet & with No active Czar or Sultan in G10 if nothing is written about the Spanish Succession the paper may have to be re-named the Southern African Cattle Herders Times.

I assume any new player picking Spain got the little health warning from Rirchard showing "very active/crisis" position.

Like other players I welcome what seems like a new player in Madrid and in game King Philip's Loyal Viceroy of Flanders has sent the Royal Council of Spain a 100% biased report to bring them up to date. To be fair its clearly marked "100% Bourbon Propaganda......feel free to throw it in a fire and scream Hapsburg or Good King Rodrigo till I die"

Oddly the fact that the Succession crisis over Carlos II inheritence in G10 has at times seemed to be going on seperate to a Government in Spain which either wanted to act as if it could just ignore the issue or had lapsed into indecision has resulted in the crisis in G10 being long drawn out and conducted mostly outside of Spain which seem's closer in feel to the historic crisis than you get in many other games.

Have also liked the way players have focused on local parts of the succession so at times the succession to the Duchy of Milan and the Kingdom of Naples seems to matter more than Spain itself. So we now have a Partition Treaty drawn up 50% of which covers Dutch Barrier Fortresses in Flanders!

If a new player has joined I think he has got three possible teams to join:

- The Happy Hapsburg's - lead by Leopold "Trust me" Hapsburg & his Geonan hating side kick the Doge of Venice.

- The Bourbon League of Gay Blades - Toadies, Swashbuckler's, Swordsmen & Nobles on the make plus various Friends, Lovers & Shareholders - perfect Company if you want your to drag Spain into the C18 or go on Crusade. Less kind types mention Piracy and imply that sticking with Philip of Anjou's current Viceroy's would be like herding cats.

- League of Murderous Usurpers - Current membership limited to the Great Moghul & Cardinal Portocarrero.